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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 564650" data-attributes="member: 43875"><p>pretty interesting so far.</p><p></p><p>Been a lot of hype and propaganda, some strange reactions from Microsoft</p><p></p><p>As far as how powerful it will be we wont really know for sure till final specs come out. All we know is that it will be an 8 core AMD APU with a HD6xxx series GPU on the chip</p><p></p><p>It's good but not future tech or anything mind blowing. Current AMD APU's for notebooks and PC's are basically dual core 4 thread CPU's with ok integrated graphics, they are ok at best and only really good if used with hybrid crossfire. The PS4 processor is just a bulked up version by the sounds of it will be a 4 core/module 8 thread Processor - if you didn't know the AMD CPU's are not really true 4/8 core CPU's they actually compare more better with Intel Hyper thread CPU's like the I7 which is 4 core 8 thread but lets be honest Intels I7 basically blows away anything AMD has got in terms of processing power even though the AMD solution is closer to true 8 physical cores it' still well behind intel terms of power.</p><p></p><p>The GPU will clearly be better than any standard AMD APU but HD6xxx series is already a few years old, hardly cutting edge. My guess is it will be like an HD6870 but with a more modern small manufacturing process so can sit on the APU.</p><p></p><p>What the processor does signal to me is low cost. My understanding is that Sony went to Nvidia and I bet they came up with something awesome but too expensive. The AMD option will be very cost effective and allow Sony to make the PS4 affordable.</p><p></p><p>8GB DDR5 is really impressive, but IMO it's also total overkill. PS3 has 256mb and yes it's a bottleneck now but it's still producing good graphics. 1gb would have been good, 2gb awesome, 4GB overkill and 8gb is just total overkill. And just means that memory will basically never bottleneck this generation console. Even more of an overkill when you consider games will only be 1080p and not higher resolutions</p><p></p><p>Word is that the next xbox will not have DDR5 or 8gb, this will prob be an edge the PS4 will have going forward.</p><p></p><p>moving to x86 means it will be easy to develop for and bring production costs down. But also means it wont be able to run ps3 games. Which I personally think is a shame.</p><p></p><p>It is kinda a shame to see the end of the cell processor used in the PS3. Though yes it was harder to devalop/port for it is/was a very special bit of kit even by today's standards. I mean unlike the PS4 which has pretty conservative low cost hardware the PS3 was pretty revolutionary and the processor at the time was seriously powerful. It was very rare for a game to take full advantage of the cell processor, it's strength was not pixel fill rates - it's post processing, basically mathematical calculations/floating point. To see just how good it is you really need to play games like Uncharted 2 & 3.</p><p></p><p>To give you and idea of how good it is the US millitary have built a super computer linking thousands of PS3 consoles together to process high definition satellite images and it is one of the most powerful supercomputers in the world, top 50 I think?</p><p></p><p>My understand is billions was spend developing the cell (with IBM/Toshiba) and it was purchased by Toshiba? But it has now been canned.</p><p></p><p>if that pic is the actual PS4. I like it, to be honest I don't really like the designs of the various realases of the PS3. This looks much cleaner though doesn't look like you can put it up on it's edge without a stand or something.</p><p></p><p>in a nutshell PS4 = safe, more in line with the PC and more cost effective. But nothing special.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 564650, member: 43875"] pretty interesting so far. Been a lot of hype and propaganda, some strange reactions from Microsoft As far as how powerful it will be we wont really know for sure till final specs come out. All we know is that it will be an 8 core AMD APU with a HD6xxx series GPU on the chip It's good but not future tech or anything mind blowing. Current AMD APU's for notebooks and PC's are basically dual core 4 thread CPU's with ok integrated graphics, they are ok at best and only really good if used with hybrid crossfire. The PS4 processor is just a bulked up version by the sounds of it will be a 4 core/module 8 thread Processor - if you didn't know the AMD CPU's are not really true 4/8 core CPU's they actually compare more better with Intel Hyper thread CPU's like the I7 which is 4 core 8 thread but lets be honest Intels I7 basically blows away anything AMD has got in terms of processing power even though the AMD solution is closer to true 8 physical cores it' still well behind intel terms of power. The GPU will clearly be better than any standard AMD APU but HD6xxx series is already a few years old, hardly cutting edge. My guess is it will be like an HD6870 but with a more modern small manufacturing process so can sit on the APU. What the processor does signal to me is low cost. My understanding is that Sony went to Nvidia and I bet they came up with something awesome but too expensive. The AMD option will be very cost effective and allow Sony to make the PS4 affordable. 8GB DDR5 is really impressive, but IMO it's also total overkill. PS3 has 256mb and yes it's a bottleneck now but it's still producing good graphics. 1gb would have been good, 2gb awesome, 4GB overkill and 8gb is just total overkill. And just means that memory will basically never bottleneck this generation console. Even more of an overkill when you consider games will only be 1080p and not higher resolutions Word is that the next xbox will not have DDR5 or 8gb, this will prob be an edge the PS4 will have going forward. moving to x86 means it will be easy to develop for and bring production costs down. But also means it wont be able to run ps3 games. Which I personally think is a shame. It is kinda a shame to see the end of the cell processor used in the PS3. Though yes it was harder to devalop/port for it is/was a very special bit of kit even by today's standards. I mean unlike the PS4 which has pretty conservative low cost hardware the PS3 was pretty revolutionary and the processor at the time was seriously powerful. It was very rare for a game to take full advantage of the cell processor, it's strength was not pixel fill rates - it's post processing, basically mathematical calculations/floating point. To see just how good it is you really need to play games like Uncharted 2 & 3. To give you and idea of how good it is the US millitary have built a super computer linking thousands of PS3 consoles together to process high definition satellite images and it is one of the most powerful supercomputers in the world, top 50 I think? My understand is billions was spend developing the cell (with IBM/Toshiba) and it was purchased by Toshiba? But it has now been canned. if that pic is the actual PS4. I like it, to be honest I don't really like the designs of the various realases of the PS3. This looks much cleaner though doesn't look like you can put it up on it's edge without a stand or something. in a nutshell PS4 = safe, more in line with the PC and more cost effective. But nothing special. [/QUOTE]
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