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<blockquote data-quote="40/20" data-source="post: 978068" data-attributes="member: 81577"><p>Yep fair points, especially regarding midfield and Jordie's continued selection. I wasnt able to wrap my head around those things either. </p><p></p><p>Also agree that group of players could've won another WC but they needed a far more settled preparation given their relative inexperience and I firmly believe the plan was there, but disrupted by key injuries at key times. </p><p></p><p>I think we need to be careful about giving Foster too much credit though. For instance it was Hansen's call to try Rieko on the left wing which Foster originally resisted. And if we're saying Hansen erred by employing a strategy of playing wide that got nullified, well, that was Foster's domain as attack coach too. Which is why I'm absolutely against him getting the gig next year. But we have another thread for that... </p><p></p><p>Re: coach tenure... I think there's definitely a balance to be struck. For years we punted the previous group and started again and it took the one time we tried something different to finally pull it off again. Extended tenures can work well - Alex Ferguson, Bill Belichick and Craig Bellamy are good examples - but I agree the challenge is in getting the timing right and how that's done for future cycles will be very interesting. Maybe we went from one extreme to the other but now need to find the middle ground that works best. </p><p></p><p>The thing is, at the end of RWC15, Shag was probably our best option anyway to rebuild a team that had lost so much experience. Looking back, that '15 team featured two of the best players the world has ever seen playing key roles at 10 and 7 in the knock out stages, we had probably our best ever midfield combination operating at its peak and with Read and Kaino alongside the skipper, arguably our best ever loose trio as well. </p><p></p><p>We were incredibly blessed and maybe it's taken this campaign to highlight just how much so. And just how hard it really was to rebuild from it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="40/20, post: 978068, member: 81577"] Yep fair points, especially regarding midfield and Jordie's continued selection. I wasnt able to wrap my head around those things either. Also agree that group of players could've won another WC but they needed a far more settled preparation given their relative inexperience and I firmly believe the plan was there, but disrupted by key injuries at key times. I think we need to be careful about giving Foster too much credit though. For instance it was Hansen's call to try Rieko on the left wing which Foster originally resisted. And if we're saying Hansen erred by employing a strategy of playing wide that got nullified, well, that was Foster's domain as attack coach too. Which is why I'm absolutely against him getting the gig next year. But we have another thread for that... Re: coach tenure... I think there's definitely a balance to be struck. For years we punted the previous group and started again and it took the one time we tried something different to finally pull it off again. Extended tenures can work well - Alex Ferguson, Bill Belichick and Craig Bellamy are good examples - but I agree the challenge is in getting the timing right and how that's done for future cycles will be very interesting. Maybe we went from one extreme to the other but now need to find the middle ground that works best. The thing is, at the end of RWC15, Shag was probably our best option anyway to rebuild a team that had lost so much experience. Looking back, that '15 team featured two of the best players the world has ever seen playing key roles at 10 and 7 in the knock out stages, we had probably our best ever midfield combination operating at its peak and with Read and Kaino alongside the skipper, arguably our best ever loose trio as well. We were incredibly blessed and maybe it's taken this campaign to highlight just how much so. And just how hard it really was to rebuild from it. [/QUOTE]
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