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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 527625" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>Having given it a bit of thought after my gut reaction "No", I still think No for the following 4 reasons</p><p></p><p>1 - I don't think Trimble at 13's one of our best players. In fairness, I've seen very little of him there, but sticking him on the wing minimises his weaknesses such as a tendency to get lost in defence and the worst distribution of any Ulster back I can think of, while allowing us to make best use of his finishing in tight spaces, ability to generate quick ball on the crash, kill people in ball chases and so on. But Trimble at 13 looks like he'd be like Earls when he first started - lovely runner, but misses tackles due to being in the wrong place, and no friend to his wingers.</p><p></p><p>2 - I don't think Cave at 12's one of our best players - and in fairness, that's very much think. He only played ten minutes at 12 tonight as he moved out once Allen got injured, and this season is the first time he's played 12 to the best of my knowledge in three seasons. I think he could be an adept enough 12 - but he's not big enough to generate endless quick ball (although he could learn how to do it with footwork from Wallace), I don't think he's quite the distributor needed for a wide game (might be wrong) and he's not got the pace and feet to play 12 like Fofana does.</p><p></p><p>3 - There's a very strong argument that one of Wallace and Marshall fall under the best backs category. Wallace did a lot of good things today, he may have limitations at international level but he's one hell of an attacking threat for us and a good outlet. Marshall's not quite as canny as Wallace, but he makes up for it with some lovely aggressive defence and he's a very useful attacker too. Both are better distributors than Cave. So I'm not sure.</p><p></p><p>4 - It'd weaken competition for places. Right now, Anscombe is rotating regularly and giving everyone a chance to stake a place and it's really working. If we started messing around with the backline it'd feel like we were weakening the competition at 13 and on the wing. As it is, Wallace/Marshall and Gilroy/Trimble are both going to have to fight tooth and claw for their places, and that can only be to the good - I'm just hoping Allen continues the good work to put similar pressure on Cave, while D'Arcy or one of the youngsters starts putting it up Payne for his shirt and all.</p><p></p><p>That's how I see it anyway, others will have differing opinions.</p><p></p><p>As for Fionn Carr - in fairness, it's no bloody surprise he's lost confidence. He's gone from being the main man to just another reserve. Ok, he never was more than a runner, and in hindsight Leinster shouldn't have gone for him, but I imagine if he was fit and firing Connacht would take him back. But yes, if he can't learn and can't function as a bit part player, Leinster need to let him go. </p><p></p><p>And I'm going to express mild relief at the end of Leinster's ability to pull talented youngsters as if out of nowhere whenever needed. That said, there seems to be a malaise, there's a lot of players in your list who everyone knows can play - would be harsh to judge the youngsters on a day when everyone goes missing (not that I'm saying you are). Is there something going wrong with the systems?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 527625, member: 42330"] Having given it a bit of thought after my gut reaction "No", I still think No for the following 4 reasons 1 - I don't think Trimble at 13's one of our best players. In fairness, I've seen very little of him there, but sticking him on the wing minimises his weaknesses such as a tendency to get lost in defence and the worst distribution of any Ulster back I can think of, while allowing us to make best use of his finishing in tight spaces, ability to generate quick ball on the crash, kill people in ball chases and so on. But Trimble at 13 looks like he'd be like Earls when he first started - lovely runner, but misses tackles due to being in the wrong place, and no friend to his wingers. 2 - I don't think Cave at 12's one of our best players - and in fairness, that's very much think. He only played ten minutes at 12 tonight as he moved out once Allen got injured, and this season is the first time he's played 12 to the best of my knowledge in three seasons. I think he could be an adept enough 12 - but he's not big enough to generate endless quick ball (although he could learn how to do it with footwork from Wallace), I don't think he's quite the distributor needed for a wide game (might be wrong) and he's not got the pace and feet to play 12 like Fofana does. 3 - There's a very strong argument that one of Wallace and Marshall fall under the best backs category. Wallace did a lot of good things today, he may have limitations at international level but he's one hell of an attacking threat for us and a good outlet. Marshall's not quite as canny as Wallace, but he makes up for it with some lovely aggressive defence and he's a very useful attacker too. Both are better distributors than Cave. So I'm not sure. 4 - It'd weaken competition for places. Right now, Anscombe is rotating regularly and giving everyone a chance to stake a place and it's really working. If we started messing around with the backline it'd feel like we were weakening the competition at 13 and on the wing. As it is, Wallace/Marshall and Gilroy/Trimble are both going to have to fight tooth and claw for their places, and that can only be to the good - I'm just hoping Allen continues the good work to put similar pressure on Cave, while D'Arcy or one of the youngsters starts putting it up Payne for his shirt and all. That's how I see it anyway, others will have differing opinions. As for Fionn Carr - in fairness, it's no bloody surprise he's lost confidence. He's gone from being the main man to just another reserve. Ok, he never was more than a runner, and in hindsight Leinster shouldn't have gone for him, but I imagine if he was fit and firing Connacht would take him back. But yes, if he can't learn and can't function as a bit part player, Leinster need to let him go. And I'm going to express mild relief at the end of Leinster's ability to pull talented youngsters as if out of nowhere whenever needed. That said, there seems to be a malaise, there's a lot of players in your list who everyone knows can play - would be harsh to judge the youngsters on a day when everyone goes missing (not that I'm saying you are). Is there something going wrong with the systems? [/QUOTE]
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