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<blockquote data-quote="feicarsinn" data-source="post: 145438"><p>ok so straight after the wc a team needs to start looking ahead to 2011. england completely failed in this after 03 and look at them. now while ireland will not win the world cup (or even come close by the looks of it) if we are not to embarras ourselves in '11 november is when to start. first thing that should be done is identify who can and cant be there out of the current squad</p><p>heres ireland wc squad their age in four years and now and if they can realisticlly compete in four years</p><p>Name Current age Age in 2011 Can they make it</p><p>S.Best 29 33 maybe, but he must improve</p><p>J.Hayes 33 37 oh god no </p><p>M.Horan 30 34 i hope not</p><p>B.Young 25 29 must improve seriously</p><p>R.Best 25 29 probably</p><p>J.Flannery 28 32 same</p><p>F.Sheahan 31 35 not good enough now</p><p>D.O'Callaghan 28 32 shouldnt start but in the squad</p><p>P.O'Connell 27 31 yes</p><p>M.O'Kelly 33 37 no way</p><p>N.Best 28 32 eh, on the borderline</p><p>S.Easterby 32 36 too old</p><p>S.Ferris 22 26 may start</p><p>A.Quinlan 32 36 thankfully no</p><p>D.Wallace 31 35 as much as i like it, no</p><p>D.Leamy 25 29 should be a star</p><p>E.Redden 26 30 would like to see him start</p><p>I.Boss 27 31 i pray not</p><p>P.Stringer 29 33 same</p><p>R.O'Gara 30 34 could travel as replacement</p><p>P.Wallace 28 32 not good enough now</p><p>G.D'arcy 27 31 as long as he avoids injury </p><p>G.Duffy 26 30 no idea</p><p>B.O'Driscoll 28 32 same as d'arcy</p><p>B.Carney 31 35 not a chance in hell</p><p>D.Hickie 31 34 retiring after 07'</p><p>S.Horgan 29 33 doubt it</p><p>A.Trimble 22 26 hopefully will star</p><p>G.Dempsey 31 35 no</p><p>G.Murphy 29 33 may travel wont start</p><p></p><p></p><p>so we urgently need props second rows, backrow forwards, a scrum half, at least one fly half and new wingers, in short nearly a new team. if i were over the team after this wc everyone over 30 would be dropped. as good as they may be we have to look to the future and they wont be there in four. currently these names should mature into players of the quality for the '11 wc:</p><p>Rob Kearney (wing/fullback)</p><p>Luke Fitzgerald (wing/fullback)</p><p>Jamie Heislip (No.8)</p><p>Ian Humphries (Fly-Half)</p><p>Johnny Sexton (Fly-Half)</p><p>Keith Earls (Centre)</p><p>Daragh Hurley (prop)</p><p>Darren Cave (Centre)</p><p>Cillian Willis (scrum half)</p><p>Shane Jennings (Flanker)</p><p>(if i've missed any do tell)</p><p>These lads are very important to the future of irish rugby and what they need above all else is GAME TIME. At least five should take part in next year's six nations and i mean a serious part not just subs. a serious development programme should be set up to follow their progression.</p><p> even if all these talents break through which is highly unlikely we still need to find more props and backrow forwards. if connacht is really being seen as a development province then any young props or backrows could be sent on a season long loan to help them progress and get much needed games. at the moment the future of irish rugby looks quite grim and i really hope some top players casn come from the u-21 grandslam winning team</p><p></p><p></p><p>shite i wanted to mention the possible future team atm:</p><p>1 B young</p><p>2 Flannery</p><p>3 Hurley</p><p>4 O'Callaghan</p><p>5 O'Connell</p><p>6 Heislip (will have to learn)</p><p>7 Jennings</p><p>8 Leamy</p><p>9 Redden</p><p>10 Humphries/Sexton</p><p>11 Fitzgerald </p><p>12 D'arcy</p><p>13 O'Driscoll</p><p>14 Trimble</p><p>15 Kearney</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="feicarsinn, post: 145438"] ok so straight after the wc a team needs to start looking ahead to 2011. england completely failed in this after 03 and look at them. now while ireland will not win the world cup (or even come close by the looks of it) if we are not to embarras ourselves in '11 november is when to start. first thing that should be done is identify who can and cant be there out of the current squad heres ireland wc squad their age in four years and now and if they can realisticlly compete in four years Name Current age Age in 2011 Can they make it S.Best 29 33 maybe, but he must improve J.Hayes 33 37 oh god no M.Horan 30 34 i hope not B.Young 25 29 must improve seriously R.Best 25 29 probably J.Flannery 28 32 same F.Sheahan 31 35 not good enough now D.O'Callaghan 28 32 shouldnt start but in the squad P.O'Connell 27 31 yes M.O'Kelly 33 37 no way N.Best 28 32 eh, on the borderline S.Easterby 32 36 too old S.Ferris 22 26 may start A.Quinlan 32 36 thankfully no D.Wallace 31 35 as much as i like it, no D.Leamy 25 29 should be a star E.Redden 26 30 would like to see him start I.Boss 27 31 i pray not P.Stringer 29 33 same R.O'Gara 30 34 could travel as replacement P.Wallace 28 32 not good enough now G.D'arcy 27 31 as long as he avoids injury G.Duffy 26 30 no idea B.O'Driscoll 28 32 same as d'arcy B.Carney 31 35 not a chance in hell D.Hickie 31 34 retiring after 07' S.Horgan 29 33 doubt it A.Trimble 22 26 hopefully will star G.Dempsey 31 35 no G.Murphy 29 33 may travel wont start so we urgently need props second rows, backrow forwards, a scrum half, at least one fly half and new wingers, in short nearly a new team. if i were over the team after this wc everyone over 30 would be dropped. as good as they may be we have to look to the future and they wont be there in four. currently these names should mature into players of the quality for the '11 wc: Rob Kearney (wing/fullback) Luke Fitzgerald (wing/fullback) Jamie Heislip (No.8) Ian Humphries (Fly-Half) Johnny Sexton (Fly-Half) Keith Earls (Centre) Daragh Hurley (prop) Darren Cave (Centre) Cillian Willis (scrum half) Shane Jennings (Flanker) (if i've missed any do tell) These lads are very important to the future of irish rugby and what they need above all else is GAME TIME. At least five should take part in next year's six nations and i mean a serious part not just subs. a serious development programme should be set up to follow their progression. even if all these talents break through which is highly unlikely we still need to find more props and backrow forwards. if connacht is really being seen as a development province then any young props or backrows could be sent on a season long loan to help them progress and get much needed games. at the moment the future of irish rugby looks quite grim and i really hope some top players casn come from the u-21 grandslam winning team shite i wanted to mention the possible future team atm: 1 B young 2 Flannery 3 Hurley 4 O'Callaghan 5 O'Connell 6 Heislip (will have to learn) 7 Jennings 8 Leamy 9 Redden 10 Humphries/Sexton 11 Fitzgerald 12 D'arcy 13 O'Driscoll 14 Trimble 15 Kearney [/QUOTE]
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