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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 905362" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>Who cares? It's a European league... The Champions league has **** teams from Ukraine that wouldn't beat sides from England, Spain and Germany that don't qualify. Next year will do no good for anyone not having an Italian team, further proof McCafferty etc al have no interest in growing the game and just want to retire with a big bank balance, I'm actually amazed rugby fans can side with him as he proves again and again he doesn't care one bit about the future of the sport outside his own monetary interests.</p><p></p><p>Average attendance isn't the best way to look at it as there were four more teams, the new tournament has yet to sell out a final and even managed to not sell out a Leinster semi final in Dublin having priced people out with high ticket prices and, for some unfathomable reason, bringing a final to Spain before Ireland or Wales. It's unquestionably run worse, advertised worse, and less enjoyable and prestigious than the old guise and the minor 'positive' of not having Italians (which is more of a negative imo) definitely doesn't outweigh the metric tonne of negatives the tournament has brought.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How does having Treviso in a tournament stop it from determining the best team in Europe? The Champions league doesn't have the best 32 soccer teams in Europe and it's still the most watched club tournament in the world because it generates interest across Europe and not just in the handful of countries who have teams good enough to contend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 905362, member: 45598"] Who cares? It's a European league... The Champions league has **** teams from Ukraine that wouldn't beat sides from England, Spain and Germany that don't qualify. Next year will do no good for anyone not having an Italian team, further proof McCafferty etc al have no interest in growing the game and just want to retire with a big bank balance, I'm actually amazed rugby fans can side with him as he proves again and again he doesn't care one bit about the future of the sport outside his own monetary interests. Average attendance isn't the best way to look at it as there were four more teams, the new tournament has yet to sell out a final and even managed to not sell out a Leinster semi final in Dublin having priced people out with high ticket prices and, for some unfathomable reason, bringing a final to Spain before Ireland or Wales. It's unquestionably run worse, advertised worse, and less enjoyable and prestigious than the old guise and the minor 'positive' of not having Italians (which is more of a negative imo) definitely doesn't outweigh the metric tonne of negatives the tournament has brought. How does having Treviso in a tournament stop it from determining the best team in Europe? The Champions league doesn't have the best 32 soccer teams in Europe and it's still the most watched club tournament in the world because it generates interest across Europe and not just in the handful of countries who have teams good enough to contend. [/QUOTE]
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