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<blockquote data-quote="GimleyUK" data-source="post: 255588"><p>I'd find it hard to understand the non financial side of Flutey's commitment, objectively, from a player that has previously tried to beat the Lions with his home team, wanting to be in the Lions and win. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously as a Kiwi, playing against non Kiwis, he has as little empathy with the Boks as any other player outside of SA. I am sure he would be as determined to win the series as the rest of the selected squad. Flutey certainly seems to want to win for England.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally I can not understand where he would find the passion to be a Lion though ? THe Passion that other players who grew up dreaming of being in the Lions squad naturally have in abundance, while he was most likely dreaming of becoming an All Black as a kid.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I also rate a few other players higher than Flutey, even though he is currently on form. remember though form dwindles, talent remains.</p><p></p><p>My personal rating of the British number 12 list would be something like this going on what i have watched in British club and International rugby over the last few years...!</p><p></p><p>Gavin Henson</p><p></p><p>Gavin Evans (Llanelli soon to be Cardiff Blues, recently returned to fitness after injury and looks fantastic with a new kicking game added to his already magnificent abilities)</p><p></p><p>Gordon D'Arcy</p><p></p><p>Andrew Bishop</p><p></p><p>Luke Fitzgerald</p><p></p><p>Ricky Flutey</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I prefer Flutey to Jamie Roberts though. I regard Roberts very highly as a player but one dimensional at 12, better to use Roberts at 13 or 15, a position where you can use his clever angles and counter attacking game that you don't see when he plays 12. To me Roberts is a wide player and i can understand why Warren Gatland was so excited to try a Henson Roberts Combo for Wales, possibly needs more time.</p><p></p><p>You have to remember that Jamie Roberts looked to be the Welsh revelation at 15 for the Welsh U20s two years ago, luckily for Wales, unluckily for Roberts as a 15, lee Byrne found the form of his career, and Warren Gatland played roberts at 12 during the WElsh tour of SA last summer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GimleyUK, post: 255588"] I'd find it hard to understand the non financial side of Flutey's commitment, objectively, from a player that has previously tried to beat the Lions with his home team, wanting to be in the Lions and win. Obviously as a Kiwi, playing against non Kiwis, he has as little empathy with the Boks as any other player outside of SA. I am sure he would be as determined to win the series as the rest of the selected squad. Flutey certainly seems to want to win for England. Personally I can not understand where he would find the passion to be a Lion though ? THe Passion that other players who grew up dreaming of being in the Lions squad naturally have in abundance, while he was most likely dreaming of becoming an All Black as a kid. I also rate a few other players higher than Flutey, even though he is currently on form. remember though form dwindles, talent remains. My personal rating of the British number 12 list would be something like this going on what i have watched in British club and International rugby over the last few years...! Gavin Henson Gavin Evans (Llanelli soon to be Cardiff Blues, recently returned to fitness after injury and looks fantastic with a new kicking game added to his already magnificent abilities) Gordon D'Arcy Andrew Bishop Luke Fitzgerald Ricky Flutey I prefer Flutey to Jamie Roberts though. I regard Roberts very highly as a player but one dimensional at 12, better to use Roberts at 13 or 15, a position where you can use his clever angles and counter attacking game that you don't see when he plays 12. To me Roberts is a wide player and i can understand why Warren Gatland was so excited to try a Henson Roberts Combo for Wales, possibly needs more time. You have to remember that Jamie Roberts looked to be the Welsh revelation at 15 for the Welsh U20s two years ago, luckily for Wales, unluckily for Roberts as a 15, lee Byrne found the form of his career, and Warren Gatland played roberts at 12 during the WElsh tour of SA last summer. [/QUOTE]
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