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RWC: New Zealand - Japan (16-09-2011)
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<blockquote data-quote="Black Heart" data-source="post: 446968" data-attributes="member: 44806"><p>Again, It's all hindsight. And in hindsight, yes, Cruden should have been picked. But justifying the base of an argument on hindsight is always going to be pointless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1. We don't. That's why I used the term "probably."</p><p>2. This: <em>"When was the last time he actually played well for a stretch? <strong>You would have to go back to last years ITM cup." </strong></em>Slightly hipocritical on your part there don't you think? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p>3. How do we know that Cruden will "probably" play as well for the All Blacks as he does for Manawatu? When given the chance last year he buckled big time. So as far as test rugby is concerned both he and Slade are in the same boat.</p><p>4. I only made the argument that Slade would probably play well in the ITM Cup because most test players <em>(either frequents or occasionals) </em>play very well when it comes to playing provincial rugby against semi-professionals - It was a comment aimed at Cruden, not to justify Slade's position in the WC squad.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I only made the ITM Cup statement to illustrate that it's not too difficult for such players to shine in that environment. I was not implying that he should have been selected because he would have played well regardless, I think you're confusing the point I was making.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Black Heart, post: 446968, member: 44806"] Again, It's all hindsight. And in hindsight, yes, Cruden should have been picked. But justifying the base of an argument on hindsight is always going to be pointless. 1. We don't. That's why I used the term "probably." 2. This: [I]"When was the last time he actually played well for a stretch? [B]You would have to go back to last years ITM cup." [/B][/I]Slightly hipocritical on your part there don't you think? :P 3. How do we know that Cruden will "probably" play as well for the All Blacks as he does for Manawatu? When given the chance last year he buckled big time. So as far as test rugby is concerned both he and Slade are in the same boat. 4. I only made the argument that Slade would probably play well in the ITM Cup because most test players [I](either frequents or occasionals) [/I]play very well when it comes to playing provincial rugby against semi-professionals - It was a comment aimed at Cruden, not to justify Slade's position in the WC squad. Again, I only made the ITM Cup statement to illustrate that it's not too difficult for such players to shine in that environment. I was not implying that he should have been selected because he would have played well regardless, I think you're confusing the point I was making. [/QUOTE]
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