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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 578635" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>I do get it actually sifplay. Players can play for more than one nation. I bet many New Zealand born players are proud of their heritage, but it doesn't mean they can't be New Zealanders as well. Kahn Fotuali'i for example isn't a poach for Samoa (even though he was a product of the NZ rugby system which Samoa have benefited from developing a very good player), but if he were to have played for New Zealand you would say he was a "poach" which is rubbish as he was born and raised there and has the right to play for them.</p><p></p><p>In fact, the player himself said that NZ was his main goal. He had the choice of two nations. But don't tell me if New Zealand picked him it was a "poach" simply because he is proud of his heritage. He is proud of his heritage, but still he wanted to play for New Zealand more.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10654765" target="_blank">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10654765</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>To be honest, the Islanders should be looking at France if they want to play the victim game. After Fiji were denied a few players for the RWC by clubs not releasing players, and recently they picked Noa Nakaitaci to play for them, now that is a more legitimate poach, not a player who was born and raised in New Zealand and went through their system and have the right to choose to play for them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're wrong stormer2010. LeManu is saying that players of Samoan race who were born, raised and lived in New Zealand all their lives are "poaches" by New Zealand because they are of Samoan race. The fact that he extends this to even Paul Williams who isn't of Samoan race just makes his theory even worse. He thinks every player eligible for Samoa who doesn't is "poached" due to some blanket theory that unless he has gone about asking every individual he has no actual evidence of. </p><p></p><p>Paul Williams is as qualified Samoan as Richie McCaw and Sean Maitland are Scottish and plays through the grand parent rule. Yet Samoa actually escape any poaching accusations themselves which they are lucky actually.</p><p></p><p>Also nobody is forcing them to play for New Zealand. If they considered themselves so non-New Zealanders then they wouldn't play would they? And would refuse and play for Samoa.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 578635, member: 48703"] I do get it actually sifplay. Players can play for more than one nation. I bet many New Zealand born players are proud of their heritage, but it doesn't mean they can't be New Zealanders as well. Kahn Fotuali'i for example isn't a poach for Samoa (even though he was a product of the NZ rugby system which Samoa have benefited from developing a very good player), but if he were to have played for New Zealand you would say he was a "poach" which is rubbish as he was born and raised there and has the right to play for them. In fact, the player himself said that NZ was his main goal. He had the choice of two nations. But don't tell me if New Zealand picked him it was a "poach" simply because he is proud of his heritage. He is proud of his heritage, but still he wanted to play for New Zealand more. [URL]http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10654765[/URL] To be honest, the Islanders should be looking at France if they want to play the victim game. After Fiji were denied a few players for the RWC by clubs not releasing players, and recently they picked Noa Nakaitaci to play for them, now that is a more legitimate poach, not a player who was born and raised in New Zealand and went through their system and have the right to choose to play for them. You're wrong stormer2010. LeManu is saying that players of Samoan race who were born, raised and lived in New Zealand all their lives are "poaches" by New Zealand because they are of Samoan race. The fact that he extends this to even Paul Williams who isn't of Samoan race just makes his theory even worse. He thinks every player eligible for Samoa who doesn't is "poached" due to some blanket theory that unless he has gone about asking every individual he has no actual evidence of. Paul Williams is as qualified Samoan as Richie McCaw and Sean Maitland are Scottish and plays through the grand parent rule. Yet Samoa actually escape any poaching accusations themselves which they are lucky actually. Also nobody is forcing them to play for New Zealand. If they considered themselves so non-New Zealanders then they wouldn't play would they? And would refuse and play for Samoa. [/QUOTE]
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