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<blockquote data-quote="William18" data-source="post: 671076" data-attributes="member: 38439"><p>I think that the yes campaign has benefited from having an optimistic message. It is hard to campaign for 'No' and be optimistic. There doesn't seem to be many empirical ways Scotland would be better off with a Yes vote. It is more of a question of what is nationalism worth? New Zealand would probably be stronger economically if we joined up with Australia but no one thinks we should actually do that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the Scottish Conservatives would do better. Would the SNP still be as relevant in an independent Scotland? I have heard them described as being both to left and right of Labour. Many of the SNP's seats used to be Conservation 50 years ago (apparently) yet some in the party are quite left wing. I could see them breaking up once independence is achieved. In the UK right now people in Scotland seem to be poorer than average so more tend to be left wing and this wouldn't hold after independence. I have also seen Social Attitude Surveys which say that Scotland is not more left wing than England.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I tend to agree that decisions should be localised where possible. However, sometimes it isn't efficient. Monetary and foreign policy should be decided on a national basis, IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William18, post: 671076, member: 38439"] I think that the yes campaign has benefited from having an optimistic message. It is hard to campaign for 'No' and be optimistic. There doesn't seem to be many empirical ways Scotland would be better off with a Yes vote. It is more of a question of what is nationalism worth? New Zealand would probably be stronger economically if we joined up with Australia but no one thinks we should actually do that. I think the Scottish Conservatives would do better. Would the SNP still be as relevant in an independent Scotland? I have heard them described as being both to left and right of Labour. Many of the SNP's seats used to be Conservation 50 years ago (apparently) yet some in the party are quite left wing. I could see them breaking up once independence is achieved. In the UK right now people in Scotland seem to be poorer than average so more tend to be left wing and this wouldn't hold after independence. I have also seen Social Attitude Surveys which say that Scotland is not more left wing than England. I tend to agree that decisions should be localised where possible. However, sometimes it isn't efficient. Monetary and foreign policy should be decided on a national basis, IMO. [/QUOTE]
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