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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 672463" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>The Jacobites were not fighting for Scottish independence or anything close, they were fighting so Charles could take the throne. There were a huge number of Scots that fought against the Jacobites. With regards to religious reform, the Scots took to Protestantism far better than the English did, maybe the whole making the churches grey and dull appealed more to the Scots? </p><p></p><p>As for Maggie, go to Manchester, Liverpool, Brimingham etc and see just how much English support for Maggie there is. It's dishonest to say Maggie was hoisted on them by the English when huge swathes of England despised her too. </p><p></p><p>Scotland joined England when their exploits in the new world went ***s up and we bailed them out and took on their debt. Now Scots largely caused a second crisis and wish to leave, but again expect England to foot the bill.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 672463, member: 56232"] The Jacobites were not fighting for Scottish independence or anything close, they were fighting so Charles could take the throne. There were a huge number of Scots that fought against the Jacobites. With regards to religious reform, the Scots took to Protestantism far better than the English did, maybe the whole making the churches grey and dull appealed more to the Scots? As for Maggie, go to Manchester, Liverpool, Brimingham etc and see just how much English support for Maggie there is. It's dishonest to say Maggie was hoisted on them by the English when huge swathes of England despised her too. Scotland joined England when their exploits in the new world went ***s up and we bailed them out and took on their debt. Now Scots largely caused a second crisis and wish to leave, but again expect England to foot the bill. [/QUOTE]
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