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<blockquote data-quote="gingergenius" data-source="post: 239310"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laetca @ Jan 21 2009, 09:22 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=372559" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>I seem to miss the point of your argument to be honest, why would these people stop being obnoxious pricks while under the influence of cocaine if the cocaine itself was legal? You mentioned 3 fights where the reason for the fight seems to be 'the other person was using cocaine', which doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether or not cocaine is legal.</p><p></p><p>dundeesmiffy, I admit I don't know all of the people on your list, thanks for naming them <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Right, I understand where Dullonien and Laetca are coming from. Because we are all brought up with the idea that drugs=bad=illegal. It's normal for us that these things are illegal.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is that whether cocaine is illegal or not, there will still be arseholes sniffing around and being obnoxious in the pub. So, because our default position is that it's illegal, we think "that's not an argument!".</p><p></p><p>Let's change our perspective; making anything illegal costs a lot of money. So that's a con.</p><p>The fact that it <em>is</em> illegal means the people in control of production, transport and sale of the product are criminals. And with criminals comes violence, exploitation and all the rest. So that's a con.</p><p></p><p>In the pro column, the only one I can think of is that more people may use cocaine were it legal. For me, MAY is the operative word. Because I can't think of many people who will say "Oh, I'd love to, but it's against the law!". People in general don't tend to fear breaking the law; what controls us more is a deeper moral sense that something is right or wrong. And taking a drug is on a different side of the line to, for example, stabbing someone.</p><p></p><p>Now, it's really up to you whether you think that single pro outweighs the cons. I don't...</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="gingergenius, post: 239310"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laetca @ Jan 21 2009, 09:22 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=372559']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> I seem to miss the point of your argument to be honest, why would these people stop being obnoxious pricks while under the influence of cocaine if the cocaine itself was legal? You mentioned 3 fights where the reason for the fight seems to be 'the other person was using cocaine', which doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether or not cocaine is legal. dundeesmiffy, I admit I don't know all of the people on your list, thanks for naming them :) [/b][/quote] Right, I understand where Dullonien and Laetca are coming from. Because we are all brought up with the idea that drugs=bad=illegal. It's normal for us that these things are illegal. What I'm saying is that whether cocaine is illegal or not, there will still be arseholes sniffing around and being obnoxious in the pub. So, because our default position is that it's illegal, we think "that's not an argument!". Let's change our perspective; making anything illegal costs a lot of money. So that's a con. The fact that it [i]is[/i] illegal means the people in control of production, transport and sale of the product are criminals. And with criminals comes violence, exploitation and all the rest. So that's a con. In the pro column, the only one I can think of is that more people may use cocaine were it legal. For me, MAY is the operative word. Because I can't think of many people who will say "Oh, I'd love to, but it's against the law!". People in general don't tend to fear breaking the law; what controls us more is a deeper moral sense that something is right or wrong. And taking a drug is on a different side of the line to, for example, stabbing someone. Now, it's really up to you whether you think that single pro outweighs the cons. I don't... [/QUOTE]
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