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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 1132450" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>With Tonga and Scotland no easy beats its not a done deal that Ireland and us will get out of the pan and into the fire. But we have enough versatility for Nienaber and co to manage rotations IMO.</p><p></p><p>Who will miss out from that 41? My picks for players missing out:</p><p></p><p>Just looking at the numbers, probably 2 scrum halves I'd imagine getting the chop. De Klerk probably in. Then I'd imagine it would be between Hendrickse and Jantjies as back up. Reinach also has experience but for the type of player we want if De Klerk gets injured I'd imagine Reinach and Williams gets dropped.</p><p></p><p>So 6 more players to drop. Maybe 1 of Du Toit or Nyakane IE we only take 1 3rd choice prop and both of them can cover either side.</p><p></p><p>Other 5 are probably Kleyn, Orie (we really do not need 6 locks), JLdP, Van Staaden and Roos. 4 world class locks with PSdT who can fill in at a pinch is fine. I don't understand either Kleyn or Orie. I do see Kleyn as South African and it's not as if he has had any sort of meaningful involvement with the Irish test side but still, what sort of message is that sending our locks playing in SA? But then I don't understand the continued inclusion of Orie either and I say that as a die hard Stormers supporter. So what do I know. I also see 3 loosies losing out unless Kolisi doesn't get fit. Wiese, Vermeulen with Kwagga as well. How many 8's do you need? With the versatility of many of these players same goes for the flanks. I'm not a huge fan of Van Staaden and if Roos had form this year close to 2022 maybe especially in light of Vermeulen's poor club form BUT right now, if there was a RWC final I'd put Vermeulen in ahead of Roos. Roos is one for the future and will be battling it out with Wiese for supremacy soon enough but not now I believe as Nienaber is quite conservative.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't have minded all three Du Preez brothers TBH. But having left SA so early in their careers.. I am all for backing locally based players where the differences are near enough to marginal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 1132450, member: 39190"] With Tonga and Scotland no easy beats its not a done deal that Ireland and us will get out of the pan and into the fire. But we have enough versatility for Nienaber and co to manage rotations IMO. Who will miss out from that 41? My picks for players missing out: Just looking at the numbers, probably 2 scrum halves I'd imagine getting the chop. De Klerk probably in. Then I'd imagine it would be between Hendrickse and Jantjies as back up. Reinach also has experience but for the type of player we want if De Klerk gets injured I'd imagine Reinach and Williams gets dropped. So 6 more players to drop. Maybe 1 of Du Toit or Nyakane IE we only take 1 3rd choice prop and both of them can cover either side. Other 5 are probably Kleyn, Orie (we really do not need 6 locks), JLdP, Van Staaden and Roos. 4 world class locks with PSdT who can fill in at a pinch is fine. I don't understand either Kleyn or Orie. I do see Kleyn as South African and it's not as if he has had any sort of meaningful involvement with the Irish test side but still, what sort of message is that sending our locks playing in SA? But then I don't understand the continued inclusion of Orie either and I say that as a die hard Stormers supporter. So what do I know. I also see 3 loosies losing out unless Kolisi doesn't get fit. Wiese, Vermeulen with Kwagga as well. How many 8's do you need? With the versatility of many of these players same goes for the flanks. I'm not a huge fan of Van Staaden and if Roos had form this year close to 2022 maybe especially in light of Vermeulen's poor club form BUT right now, if there was a RWC final I'd put Vermeulen in ahead of Roos. Roos is one for the future and will be battling it out with Wiese for supremacy soon enough but not now I believe as Nienaber is quite conservative. I wouldn't have minded all three Du Preez brothers TBH. But having left SA so early in their careers.. I am all for backing locally based players where the differences are near enough to marginal. [/QUOTE]
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