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<blockquote data-quote="Bullitt" data-source="post: 288029"><p>To sum it up for everyone;</p><p></p><p>It all started going wrong in the WC fallout during the 2004 6 Nations when the club v country debate got worse, thanks most in part to Francis Barons arrogance, when Woodward initially suggested the supervisor role with Andy Robinson taking over as team boss.</p><p></p><p>Rob Andrew - Who for a long time had already been a vocal criticiser of SCW while stating he wanted to b e England coach himself - manoeuvred himself onto the side of Francis Baron by publicly slamming all clubs (except oddly enough Wasps and Newcastle) by voting for ring fencing the league and central contracts.</p><p></p><p>SCW, sick and tired of his rapidly reducing influence and say on all things England, famously walked out of the RFU and within 18 months (during which time, Barons attitude during the club v country debate destroyed the last remnants of Woodwards legacy) Rob Andrew became "Elite director of Rugby" which meant he had final say on selection of players and coaching staff. He employed idiot Rugby League monkey Mike Ford as defensive coach and Leicester reject John Wells as forwards coach - Further eroding now Andy Robinsons power and making his job null and void.</p><p></p><p>The illustrious Springboks game happened, AR was sacked, Ashton was brought in an didn't select any of the players he wanted - Because the Elite director of rugby picked the same rubbish he'd been over-ruling Ashtons predecessor with already and being forced to go with Barons new £100,000 a year toy of Andy Farrell.</p><p></p><p>When out in France for the World cup, Ashton somehow made the England team work once he'd cut Rob Andrews influence out of the picture following the nilling by South Africa - including dropping the dead weight like Farrell and Barkley - and reached a World cup final against all the odds.</p><p></p><p>So naturally, as a congratulations for this remarkable achievement... Rob Andrew sacked him. After all, how dare <em>you</em> manage the team the way <em>you</em> see fit?</p><p></p><p>Fast forward past the Southern Hemisphere tour when Andrew managed his lifelong dream and became the head coach of England (in which the squad played remarkably similar rugby to the bile that Newcastle churned out circa 2003 when Dave Thompsons money ran out), and another fall guy, ahem, "saviour" is employed by Andrew to take over England... Martin Johnson.</p><p></p><p>Now, the World Cup winning captain was an extremely talented player in his day and a magnificent leader on the field. However he's never been a first class coach, isn't exactly what you'd call a "people person", is known to have a short fuse and panic when things aren't going his way and can behave overly aggressive to any peon who dare be near his illustrious person. Sounds like the ideal manager for the national team, don't you agree? Not at all like a convenient diversion due to his 2003 hero status...</p><p></p><p>Yet, despite Martin Johnson being "in charge", the same players are being selected, the same appalling tactics are being used, Wells and Ford are still involved (and now joined by Brian "could be out witted by a 10 year old" Smith) and the same results are happening. </p><p></p><p>Nothing has changed since early 2004, when Rob Andrew first started being very vocal about English rugby.</p><p></p><p>And that is why he is the main problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So ladies and gentlemen...</p><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/puredynamite/robandrewc2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bullitt, post: 288029"] To sum it up for everyone; It all started going wrong in the WC fallout during the 2004 6 Nations when the club v country debate got worse, thanks most in part to Francis Barons arrogance, when Woodward initially suggested the supervisor role with Andy Robinson taking over as team boss. Rob Andrew - Who for a long time had already been a vocal criticiser of SCW while stating he wanted to b e England coach himself - manoeuvred himself onto the side of Francis Baron by publicly slamming all clubs (except oddly enough Wasps and Newcastle) by voting for ring fencing the league and central contracts. SCW, sick and tired of his rapidly reducing influence and say on all things England, famously walked out of the RFU and within 18 months (during which time, Barons attitude during the club v country debate destroyed the last remnants of Woodwards legacy) Rob Andrew became "Elite director of Rugby" which meant he had final say on selection of players and coaching staff. He employed idiot Rugby League monkey Mike Ford as defensive coach and Leicester reject John Wells as forwards coach - Further eroding now Andy Robinsons power and making his job null and void. The illustrious Springboks game happened, AR was sacked, Ashton was brought in an didn't select any of the players he wanted - Because the Elite director of rugby picked the same rubbish he'd been over-ruling Ashtons predecessor with already and being forced to go with Barons new £100,000 a year toy of Andy Farrell. When out in France for the World cup, Ashton somehow made the England team work once he'd cut Rob Andrews influence out of the picture following the nilling by South Africa - including dropping the dead weight like Farrell and Barkley - and reached a World cup final against all the odds. So naturally, as a congratulations for this remarkable achievement... Rob Andrew sacked him. After all, how dare [i]you[/i] manage the team the way [i]you[/i] see fit? Fast forward past the Southern Hemisphere tour when Andrew managed his lifelong dream and became the head coach of England (in which the squad played remarkably similar rugby to the bile that Newcastle churned out circa 2003 when Dave Thompsons money ran out), and another fall guy, ahem, "saviour" is employed by Andrew to take over England... Martin Johnson. Now, the World Cup winning captain was an extremely talented player in his day and a magnificent leader on the field. However he's never been a first class coach, isn't exactly what you'd call a "people person", is known to have a short fuse and panic when things aren't going his way and can behave overly aggressive to any peon who dare be near his illustrious person. Sounds like the ideal manager for the national team, don't you agree? Not at all like a convenient diversion due to his 2003 hero status... Yet, despite Martin Johnson being "in charge", the same players are being selected, the same appalling tactics are being used, Wells and Ford are still involved (and now joined by Brian "could be out witted by a 10 year old" Smith) and the same results are happening. Nothing has changed since early 2004, when Rob Andrew first started being very vocal about English rugby. And that is why he is the main problem. So ladies and gentlemen... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/puredynamite/robandrewc2.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE]
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