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<blockquote data-quote="Colombia" data-source="post: 526172" data-attributes="member: 63025"><p>Ordinarily I would agree but it is not as if Argentina have been getting good quick front-foot ball with space and that these wingers have been spurning opportunities presented. On the contrary Camacho has been making metres where there (initially) doesn't appear to have been any on offer. Agulla has been admittedly quiet. </p><p></p><p>There is also the point about defense. Being predominantly a "3pt" team which mostly plays narrow and kicks a lot from 9 & 10, the risk-reward ratio towards picking a riskier attacking winger over a solid defensive wing who is also no slouch in attack isn't positive.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Well if you look, McCabe was actually alongside Camacho when he started and they were facing the same way. McCabe got to him but only just and was coming across at a slight angle. I don't think there is as much in it as you suggest but then again ideally a wing should in theory arguably be quicker than a 12 with or without the ball. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>I was more thinking of situations where a winger is put in for a try and fails to finish like Cueto used to do regularly (including in the WC QF). This was a ball Camacho ripped in his own 22 and had to run the distance to score, in that situation it's not really unusual for a winger to get caught from behind. The unusual point was that it was Pat McCabe who caught him. Nevertheless, out of nothing he forced a 3pt opportunity and a yellow card to put the opposition down.</p><p></p><p>Imo if Camacho is presented with an opportunity in the opponent's half to score - then he finishes. It's just that Argentina don't manage to get their wingers into that situation much. </p><p></p><p>As to Imhoff, while it was a top outside break and he has a lot of attacking talent, it <em>was</em> unusual to see Argentina breaking from there (unlike say NZ/Oz historically) and he <em>was</em> in touch. </p><p></p><p>In short, while I would take a look at him in the AIs I wouldn't start him in the two crucial home games coming up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Colombia, post: 526172, member: 63025"] Ordinarily I would agree but it is not as if Argentina have been getting good quick front-foot ball with space and that these wingers have been spurning opportunities presented. On the contrary Camacho has been making metres where there (initially) doesn't appear to have been any on offer. Agulla has been admittedly quiet. There is also the point about defense. Being predominantly a "3pt" team which mostly plays narrow and kicks a lot from 9 & 10, the risk-reward ratio towards picking a riskier attacking winger over a solid defensive wing who is also no slouch in attack isn't positive. [FONT=Verdana] Well if you look, McCabe was actually alongside Camacho when he started and they were facing the same way. McCabe got to him but only just and was coming across at a slight angle. I don't think there is as much in it as you suggest but then again ideally a wing should in theory arguably be quicker than a 12 with or without the ball. [/FONT] I was more thinking of situations where a winger is put in for a try and fails to finish like Cueto used to do regularly (including in the WC QF). This was a ball Camacho ripped in his own 22 and had to run the distance to score, in that situation it's not really unusual for a winger to get caught from behind. The unusual point was that it was Pat McCabe who caught him. Nevertheless, out of nothing he forced a 3pt opportunity and a yellow card to put the opposition down. Imo if Camacho is presented with an opportunity in the opponent's half to score - then he finishes. It's just that Argentina don't manage to get their wingers into that situation much. As to Imhoff, while it was a top outside break and he has a lot of attacking talent, it [I]was[/I] unusual to see Argentina breaking from there (unlike say NZ/Oz historically) and he [I]was[/I] in touch. In short, while I would take a look at him in the AIs I wouldn't start him in the two crucial home games coming up. [/QUOTE]
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