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<blockquote data-quote="munstermuffin" data-source="post: 1185116" data-attributes="member: 39240"><p>Was it not friction with a more influential player???</p><p></p><p>Nut some cases do work and some don't like the "Jack McGrath failure" I disagree with. McGrath went to Ulster goosed from the Lions tour as his hips later proved. So it didn't work out as his body was effected at this stage.</p><p>I thought Jordi Murphy had a great reemergence to Irish squads when he first went up. </p><p>Others like Conway to Munster worked too in my eyes as once Andy got clear of injury he excelled. Some may say Joey Carbery failed but again injury played a part.</p><p>That is the other thing. I will use Max Deegan as an example. And this is from my physical therapy side.</p><p>He plays at the moment what 5-10 games and the majority are against poor opposition. If he does this for few seasons his body has distanced himself from the level of top top rugby consistently. Then if he moved to Ulster or anywhere and was expected to play like a regular player and consistently in big games then your body may not be able.</p><p>Again it doesn't happen everyone but I do think it is more often than not.</p><p></p><p>That is the fine balance players have to consider too. So again using Deegan as just an example. He may be happy getting a 5/10 contract at Leinster for 4 or 5 years than going abroad or elsewhere for larger money and only lasting 2 or 3 years.</p><p></p><p>And I suppose now he has backed himself only history will tell if it was a good or bad idea backing himself. </p><p>Like if he does fail to move up the pecking order and doesn't get renewed he may get a lower contract at another province ice or abroad bit will be seen as a wasted talent. Equally if he does start breaking in to Irish squads and Leinster squads then it will be a success but in the next 2 to 3 years I can't see Conan or Doris dropping off and Baird is only getting started as well as Connors viewed as able to play 6 too.</p><p>And I know people say international rest periods will kick in but there is very little games now that will be effected especially for some fringe guys and well if that is all guys settle for then that reverts to a poor approach.</p><p></p><p>But Leinster are real winners as now it means Deegan has to go all in and they get a player with point to prove</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="munstermuffin, post: 1185116, member: 39240"] Was it not friction with a more influential player??? Nut some cases do work and some don't like the "Jack McGrath failure" I disagree with. McGrath went to Ulster goosed from the Lions tour as his hips later proved. So it didn't work out as his body was effected at this stage. I thought Jordi Murphy had a great reemergence to Irish squads when he first went up. Others like Conway to Munster worked too in my eyes as once Andy got clear of injury he excelled. Some may say Joey Carbery failed but again injury played a part. That is the other thing. I will use Max Deegan as an example. And this is from my physical therapy side. He plays at the moment what 5-10 games and the majority are against poor opposition. If he does this for few seasons his body has distanced himself from the level of top top rugby consistently. Then if he moved to Ulster or anywhere and was expected to play like a regular player and consistently in big games then your body may not be able. Again it doesn't happen everyone but I do think it is more often than not. That is the fine balance players have to consider too. So again using Deegan as just an example. He may be happy getting a 5/10 contract at Leinster for 4 or 5 years than going abroad or elsewhere for larger money and only lasting 2 or 3 years. And I suppose now he has backed himself only history will tell if it was a good or bad idea backing himself. Like if he does fail to move up the pecking order and doesn't get renewed he may get a lower contract at another province ice or abroad bit will be seen as a wasted talent. Equally if he does start breaking in to Irish squads and Leinster squads then it will be a success but in the next 2 to 3 years I can't see Conan or Doris dropping off and Baird is only getting started as well as Connors viewed as able to play 6 too. And I know people say international rest periods will kick in but there is very little games now that will be effected especially for some fringe guys and well if that is all guys settle for then that reverts to a poor approach. But Leinster are real winners as now it means Deegan has to go all in and they get a player with point to prove [/QUOTE]
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