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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 981387" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>That report is in fact completely impartial. It was done by the Institute of Race Relations, not by some biased member of society.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Boks weren't in the 2015 RWC final. And they played with the players they felt was the best on merit. And yes, they were representative of the country. You represent your country when you put on that jersey. Regardless of the colour of your skin/background/sexual orientation/religion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, according to that study, yes. People in SA don't care of the colour of the skin of the players, as long as they are picked on merit and play with pride. Society has embraced the sport, have you not seen the videos of our victory parade???</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. That is not a sport issue, that is a socio-economic, health and rural development issue. Sport can't change that, just inspire.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, yes. But again, that is not SA Rugby's responsibility. That's the responsibility of the Department of Education and the Department of Sports, Arts and Culture.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, but then again, they aren't the only ones able to access high quality rugby coaching and conditioning training. The middle-class people have an equal opportunity as the wealthy. </p><p></p><p>And again, this is not a Rugby issue, as your question could be for any sport, such as cricket, swimming, athletics, golf, motorsport etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are still missing the point. Economic, Social and Health barriers are the government's problems to sort out, not SA Rugby. Yet this same government, you are failing in those mentioned areas, expect the Sports teams to represent the whole of a nation, and basically sweep the government's poor work under the rug.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>SA Rugby has always done a good job. It's actually one of the very few sporting codes in SA that hasn't been in much turmoil as the other Sporting Codes.</p><p></p><p>SA Cricket is unfortunately seemingly now in the worst position they have ever been in, and it's going to be a very big task to rescue the sport and bring us back to our glory days.</p><p></p><p>Rugby has always been the most successful team sport in South Africa, that hasn't changed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's okay, you don't need to agree with us. Clearly you have never been to South Africa and have walked in the streets with the South African people. Overall the black people are shorter in length than white people.</p><p></p><p>But yeah, you do get tall black people too, they just rather play basketball than rugby.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The same as you. You are only speaking for yourself. You are not here in a representative capacity, with a mandate to continuously disregard the information provided to you, so that your attempt to conform us non-believers over to the dark side....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are not assuming the worst. In fact, we all embrace the idea, that has been said on numerous occasions. The issue shouldn't be at the top level though, National teams must be selected by merit only. And that is exactly what the survey is saying.</p><p></p><p>Oh and SA Rugby did reach their transformation target. Mark Alexander confirmed that even prior to the World Cup. And because the targets were reached successfully, there were assurances given to Rassie and his team that the government won't interfere at the world cup, regardless of the team selected by Rassie.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are. We have been there for the last year and a half.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) should in no way, shape or form be compared to what you are saying here. It's a completely different issue. If you can't see that, then there really is no point in talking to you any further at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 981387, member: 40658"] That report is in fact completely impartial. It was done by the Institute of Race Relations, not by some biased member of society. The Boks weren't in the 2015 RWC final. And they played with the players they felt was the best on merit. And yes, they were representative of the country. You represent your country when you put on that jersey. Regardless of the colour of your skin/background/sexual orientation/religion. Well, according to that study, yes. People in SA don't care of the colour of the skin of the players, as long as they are picked on merit and play with pride. Society has embraced the sport, have you not seen the videos of our victory parade??? Yes. That is not a sport issue, that is a socio-economic, health and rural development issue. Sport can't change that, just inspire. Unfortunately, yes. But again, that is not SA Rugby's responsibility. That's the responsibility of the Department of Education and the Department of Sports, Arts and Culture. No, but then again, they aren't the only ones able to access high quality rugby coaching and conditioning training. The middle-class people have an equal opportunity as the wealthy. And again, this is not a Rugby issue, as your question could be for any sport, such as cricket, swimming, athletics, golf, motorsport etc. You are still missing the point. Economic, Social and Health barriers are the government's problems to sort out, not SA Rugby. Yet this same government, you are failing in those mentioned areas, expect the Sports teams to represent the whole of a nation, and basically sweep the government's poor work under the rug. SA Rugby has always done a good job. It's actually one of the very few sporting codes in SA that hasn't been in much turmoil as the other Sporting Codes. SA Cricket is unfortunately seemingly now in the worst position they have ever been in, and it's going to be a very big task to rescue the sport and bring us back to our glory days. Rugby has always been the most successful team sport in South Africa, that hasn't changed. That's okay, you don't need to agree with us. Clearly you have never been to South Africa and have walked in the streets with the South African people. Overall the black people are shorter in length than white people. But yeah, you do get tall black people too, they just rather play basketball than rugby. The same as you. You are only speaking for yourself. You are not here in a representative capacity, with a mandate to continuously disregard the information provided to you, so that your attempt to conform us non-believers over to the dark side.... We are not assuming the worst. In fact, we all embrace the idea, that has been said on numerous occasions. The issue shouldn't be at the top level though, National teams must be selected by merit only. And that is exactly what the survey is saying. Oh and SA Rugby did reach their transformation target. Mark Alexander confirmed that even prior to the World Cup. And because the targets were reached successfully, there were assurances given to Rassie and his team that the government won't interfere at the world cup, regardless of the team selected by Rassie. We are. We have been there for the last year and a half. Black Economic Empowerment (BEE) should in no way, shape or form be compared to what you are saying here. It's a completely different issue. If you can't see that, then there really is no point in talking to you any further at all. [/QUOTE]
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