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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 981750" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>So you are basing your assumptions on an institute just because they are established long ago? Even before Apartheid took place??</p><p></p><p>A lot has changed since then. And we are now a democracy you know. Is all the sports clubs and teams now also racist and biased? Because some of them are older than the IRR. And by sports teams, I don't necessarily mean just rugby or cricket...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See, you are still missing the point here. SARU has zero say at what happens at schoolboy level with regard to sport or representation. That is entirely the Department of Education and the Department of Sports, Arts & Culture jurisdiction. </p><p></p><p>SARU's only contribution is the hosting of the Rugby weeks and the coaching and training of the referees and coaches with their Boksmart programme.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It was different yes. The first black captain to win a World Cup. It does speak a lot about how SARU and the Boks have evolved hasn't it?</p><p></p><p>Then again, some of these former boks also said the same thing when we won in 2007, and how different it was to 1995.</p><p></p><p>There is always a difference. For me, all 3 was the same. I felt Elation, Happiness, Joy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really??? Have you even watched the Craven week?? Did you see how many black players there were, and in which schools they were. There aren't barriers. Come and see for yourself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, come and see for yourself. Your "lowest form of wit" isn't that funny. Rugby isn't the only sport being played in SA. And sports like baseball, basketball, ice hockey are growing in numbers.</p><p></p><p>Rugby is competing with cricket and soccer for the youth players, so there is a limited amount available for each sport. Some kids play all 3, or try to. But the school calendar is also limiting the opportunities. And most kids just don't have the time to play 2 or 3 sports at once.</p><p></p><p>Plus some schools only have certain sports available, and should kids want to play other sports, they will have to join a club in town.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are. Like Marvin Orie and Giant Mthyanda. Some play rugby, some play cricket, some play basketball. Most play soccer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good. Glad we can sort that out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Point is: You were wrong in your assessment, while SARU officially announced that the Springboks fulfilled the targets set to them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You cannot make a comparison between Apartheid-era and the current Democratic era. Apartheid literally means seperate!! Where sections were excluded.</p><p></p><p>Our current democracy is all about inclusion, everywhere. And BEE is viewed as just reverse-apartheid being implemented.</p><p></p><p>Plus, the people still using the "Apartheid" excuse, are using it because of their inferiority complex.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In essence, yes, but then again, that has been the case for the past 20 years... Can they seriously still say that the system is working?? shouldn't they rather look at merit and the kids' choice of sport they want to play, rather than forcing them to play a sport they don't want to play???</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. It's just a pity you keep on bashing every opinion or fact we provide to you, instead of accepting that you might be wrong and apologise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 981750, member: 40658"] So you are basing your assumptions on an institute just because they are established long ago? Even before Apartheid took place?? A lot has changed since then. And we are now a democracy you know. Is all the sports clubs and teams now also racist and biased? Because some of them are older than the IRR. And by sports teams, I don't necessarily mean just rugby or cricket... See, you are still missing the point here. SARU has zero say at what happens at schoolboy level with regard to sport or representation. That is entirely the Department of Education and the Department of Sports, Arts & Culture jurisdiction. SARU's only contribution is the hosting of the Rugby weeks and the coaching and training of the referees and coaches with their Boksmart programme. It was different yes. The first black captain to win a World Cup. It does speak a lot about how SARU and the Boks have evolved hasn't it? Then again, some of these former boks also said the same thing when we won in 2007, and how different it was to 1995. There is always a difference. For me, all 3 was the same. I felt Elation, Happiness, Joy. Really??? Have you even watched the Craven week?? Did you see how many black players there were, and in which schools they were. There aren't barriers. Come and see for yourself. Again, come and see for yourself. Your "lowest form of wit" isn't that funny. Rugby isn't the only sport being played in SA. And sports like baseball, basketball, ice hockey are growing in numbers. Rugby is competing with cricket and soccer for the youth players, so there is a limited amount available for each sport. Some kids play all 3, or try to. But the school calendar is also limiting the opportunities. And most kids just don't have the time to play 2 or 3 sports at once. Plus some schools only have certain sports available, and should kids want to play other sports, they will have to join a club in town. There are. Like Marvin Orie and Giant Mthyanda. Some play rugby, some play cricket, some play basketball. Most play soccer. Good. Glad we can sort that out. Point is: You were wrong in your assessment, while SARU officially announced that the Springboks fulfilled the targets set to them. You cannot make a comparison between Apartheid-era and the current Democratic era. Apartheid literally means seperate!! Where sections were excluded. Our current democracy is all about inclusion, everywhere. And BEE is viewed as just reverse-apartheid being implemented. Plus, the people still using the "Apartheid" excuse, are using it because of their inferiority complex. In essence, yes, but then again, that has been the case for the past 20 years... Can they seriously still say that the system is working?? shouldn't they rather look at merit and the kids' choice of sport they want to play, rather than forcing them to play a sport they don't want to play??? Sure. It's just a pity you keep on bashing every opinion or fact we provide to you, instead of accepting that you might be wrong and apologise. [/QUOTE]
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