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<blockquote data-quote="Steve-o" data-source="post: 263411"><p>Wow, so much to reply to so little time.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ May 20 2009, 06:03 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=396805" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>Yeah yeah i get it.</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Thing is I dont think he does get it. The whole system in SA is different to England-land. </p><p></p><p>Here school rugby is big, basically the grassroots of rugby. What happens then is that the schools all over the country get slip up into regions.</p><p></p><p>I'll give an example of my region and what is typically the way up. Every year coaches from schools pick their best players and send them to regional trials. They make "miss-match" teams of these players and check for various qualities. There are 3 trials and each trial less & less are picked for the next. Eventually you make your regional colours. You then play other regions, mainly from your province, in friendlies/development games. </p><p></p><p>After that you go to provincial trials. Now a province like Natal has some 9 million people in it so making your provincial colours is like getting capped for Wales. It's pretty big but not so much. From there you go to Craven Week which is where all the provinces age group teams play each other. It starts at u/13 level through to u/19 level. A huge majority of Springbok players come through this system. Playing in Craven Week is pretty big. Like getting capped for Scotland, sorta. And then from there they selected SA Schools teams. After you finished school and got signed by a provincial Union and play in the u/20 Currie Cup teams, you're in contention for the Baby Boks (nowdays, the u/20's). Some like Frans Steyn and Robert Ebersohn go straight from Craven Week to full out Currie Cup.</p><p></p><p>So basically from when your little you dream of playing for Natal, or your Province, and of course the Boks. Not a local club. Well that's the norm. Club rugby is WAY less competitive than school rugby. You can get Provincial colours for club rugby from u/13 level but it's definitely not main stream.</p><p></p><p>Other than Provincial Unions most, 99.9%, of clubs are amatuer or on the rare occasion semi pro. It's a much different system down here in SA. The big rugby schools (Paul Roos, Grey Bloem, Affies, Jeppes, etc) get their games televised. Jake White for instance came through this system as well as he started his coaching at Jeppes Boys Highschool.</p><p></p><p>It's a good system imo because in the end SARU guides whats going on. All the Provincial Unions answer to them although they're not controlled by them per se. But the nation Union doesn't need to plead with and please some tycoon for players. It's a very all conclusive system.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now that that's out of the way you can tell us some more about how not-so-good our players are, who can't tackle eventhough SA only conceded 1 try in 3 Test, where England conceded 3 tries in 1 half against us...</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Steve-o, post: 263411"] Wow, so much to reply to so little time. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ May 20 2009, 06:03 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=396805']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Yeah yeah i get it. [/b][/quote] Thing is I dont think he does get it. The whole system in SA is different to England-land. Here school rugby is big, basically the grassroots of rugby. What happens then is that the schools all over the country get slip up into regions. I'll give an example of my region and what is typically the way up. Every year coaches from schools pick their best players and send them to regional trials. They make "miss-match" teams of these players and check for various qualities. There are 3 trials and each trial less & less are picked for the next. Eventually you make your regional colours. You then play other regions, mainly from your province, in friendlies/development games. After that you go to provincial trials. Now a province like Natal has some 9 million people in it so making your provincial colours is like getting capped for Wales. It's pretty big but not so much. From there you go to Craven Week which is where all the provinces age group teams play each other. It starts at u/13 level through to u/19 level. A huge majority of Springbok players come through this system. Playing in Craven Week is pretty big. Like getting capped for Scotland, sorta. And then from there they selected SA Schools teams. After you finished school and got signed by a provincial Union and play in the u/20 Currie Cup teams, you're in contention for the Baby Boks (nowdays, the u/20's). Some like Frans Steyn and Robert Ebersohn go straight from Craven Week to full out Currie Cup. So basically from when your little you dream of playing for Natal, or your Province, and of course the Boks. Not a local club. Well that's the norm. Club rugby is WAY less competitive than school rugby. You can get Provincial colours for club rugby from u/13 level but it's definitely not main stream. Other than Provincial Unions most, 99.9%, of clubs are amatuer or on the rare occasion semi pro. It's a much different system down here in SA. The big rugby schools (Paul Roos, Grey Bloem, Affies, Jeppes, etc) get their games televised. Jake White for instance came through this system as well as he started his coaching at Jeppes Boys Highschool. It's a good system imo because in the end SARU guides whats going on. All the Provincial Unions answer to them although they're not controlled by them per se. But the nation Union doesn't need to plead with and please some tycoon for players. It's a very all conclusive system. Now that that's out of the way you can tell us some more about how not-so-good our players are, who can't tackle eventhough SA only conceded 1 try in 3 Test, where England conceded 3 tries in 1 half against us... [/QUOTE]
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