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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 590611" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Yes, the Scots and the Italians are really packing their stadiums to the rafters to watch the Pro12 aren't they? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> The Irish were similar until they had success, and even then the Rabo crowds are comfortably down on the Heineken Cup ones.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The solution for the league to get better if the unions treat it as a proper competitive league throughout the season. Especially as the player pool in the nations are condensed into less teams as opposed to France or England meaning more internationals in the top teams. Ospreys or Leinster could lose an entire team to an international training camp, which results in periods where Connacht can thump Leinster like they did last season, and the Dragons can beat the Ospreys.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, the unions can keep treating it they way they do and pull players out at will, which is good for the national teams, but comes at the price that the league suffers as a product as a result.</p><p></p><p>Also since when was joining the English league tried? It hasn't, and if it was a feasible option then I would take it in a heartbeat over the RaboPro12. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The playoffs mean something, but the regular season is pretty dire with many low standard games with sides like Dragons and the good sides when they have a load of internationals away in camp. The old format before the playoffs made the league even worse. Having said that though, even with the playoffs it comes a mile behind the Heineken Cup, and behind the Top 14 and Premiership. The Premiership final and Top 14 final is played in front of 80,000 in the national stadiums, whilst the Pro12 final is played in a regular club stadium with 19,000. There is no better indication as to the inferiority of the league as a product than that, it's not seen as worthy of being moved to one of the four main national stadiums.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 590611, member: 48703"] Yes, the Scots and the Italians are really packing their stadiums to the rafters to watch the Pro12 aren't they? :rolleyes: The Irish were similar until they had success, and even then the Rabo crowds are comfortably down on the Heineken Cup ones. The solution for the league to get better if the unions treat it as a proper competitive league throughout the season. Especially as the player pool in the nations are condensed into less teams as opposed to France or England meaning more internationals in the top teams. Ospreys or Leinster could lose an entire team to an international training camp, which results in periods where Connacht can thump Leinster like they did last season, and the Dragons can beat the Ospreys. Otherwise, the unions can keep treating it they way they do and pull players out at will, which is good for the national teams, but comes at the price that the league suffers as a product as a result. Also since when was joining the English league tried? It hasn't, and if it was a feasible option then I would take it in a heartbeat over the RaboPro12. The playoffs mean something, but the regular season is pretty dire with many low standard games with sides like Dragons and the good sides when they have a load of internationals away in camp. The old format before the playoffs made the league even worse. Having said that though, even with the playoffs it comes a mile behind the Heineken Cup, and behind the Top 14 and Premiership. The Premiership final and Top 14 final is played in front of 80,000 in the national stadiums, whilst the Pro12 final is played in a regular club stadium with 19,000. There is no better indication as to the inferiority of the league as a product than that, it's not seen as worthy of being moved to one of the four main national stadiums. [/QUOTE]
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