I honestly thought that fracas wasn't as bad as when myself and other SA members had a rather heated debate about Bryce Lawrence (remember him). I know us saffas have a tendency to blame the referee, but in all honesty, sometimes our claims are validated. I take no joy in the fact that the outcry by the SA public caused Bryce to never officiate another international test again, even though he's still an active member of the referees board. And I don't think it was the intention of most of the SA public to have him never officiate again, a leave of absence and an apology would have sufficed. Like Mr. Poite, sure we hate him when he officiates our games, but he has improved dramatically as a referee, and I bare him no ill will when he takes charge. I will come on this forum to vent, rage and whatever. Sometimes for the sake of my own sanity. And other times to see if others agree with me or not. The way others take my remarks, sometimes warrants a disagreement from me, as that's just my nature. and other times, it's merely to keep the conversation going.