Wales v South Africa

[BPM]

Gouging as an act of revenge is still gouging

 

[BPM]

I have different opinions than you. It’s okay. You don’t have to try to ban me or silence me or make your little childish remarks.

I get that in your world, this is how people operate.

This isn’t the UK. We can have alternative opinions. We are not governed here by your little groupthink mindset.

Perhaps you might get a better reaction if you weren’t so contrarian.

It feels like you go out of your way to take an unpopular, controversial and often simply wrong POV.

It’s an opinion but it’s tiresome when you always seem to take a particular stance.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Gouging as an act of revenge is still gouging

Wrong. Murphy punched a player and it got rescinded. Keep up.

 

[Scotty]

Wrong. Murphy punched a player and it got rescinded. Keep up.

Am I missing something?(I might be) but how is this a reply to what he said?

 

[Reiser99]

You know, I've never regretted putting Chicagokid on ignore. He may be entitled to his opinion, but at least I don't have to read his bullshit.

 

[dirty harry]

Looks like Mann kicked this off and should be banned until Wales are a top 6 side again.

******* hell thats a life sentence!!!

 

[Ddanno]

 

[NickBD]

Perhaps you might get a better reaction if you weren’t so contrarian.

It feels like you go out of your way to take an unpopular, controversial and often simply wrong POV.

It’s an opinion but it’s tiresome when you always seem to take a particular stance.

One of those users the moment you challenge his opinion he gets instantly defensive by gaslighting everyone. He said it on the last page "people asking for a life time ban for Etzebeth" no one said that. In the post you quoted no one has called for a ban or to silence him, classic right wing approach make something up to make everyone look silly. I know we shouldn't get political but last sentence in his post with orange dictator banning people for mean tweets and you say that.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Thought we'd been pretty clear that politics is not to be shoehorned into match threads

But if not: don't

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Etzebeth has always been a dirty thug who clearly gets a kick out of his "enforcer" mentality. Unfortunately he happens to be quite good at it as he can manhandle 90% of other rugby players. He needs to book thrown at him though, he has previous and the complete lack of remorse at any point after should be a real factor.

 

[Rinkadink]

Would love to see Eben try that against someone like Cudmore or similar ilk.

Fun!

 

[BMatt]

Looks like Mann kicked this off and should be banned until Wales are a top 6 side again.

We don't need to rely on a cherry-picked still when we have video.

 

[Ddanno]

Always the victim, never the assailant. Go bokke.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Always the victim, never the assailant. Go bokke.

lol.

 

[ChicagoKid]

We don't need to rely on a cherry-picked still when we have video.

Palm on the face and fingers around the eye area is a minimum 4 week ban.

 

[BMatt]

Palm on the face and fingers around the eye area is a minimum 4 week ban.

It's a collapsed maul or ruck. Mann isn't fully in control of where his own arm is going. Merely having your hand on someone's face isn't a bannable offence, otherwise Etzebeth and many others would be banned until the heat death of the universe.

 

[jackie d]

One of those users the moment you challenge his opinion he gets instantly defensive by gaslighting everyone. He said it on the last page "people asking for a life time ban for Etzebeth" no one said that. In the post you quoted no one has called for a ban or to silence him, classic right wing approach make something up to make everyone look silly. I know we shouldn't get political but last sentence in his post with orange dictator banning people for mean tweets and you say that.

Sounds more left wing tbh

 

[saulan]

He needs to book thrown at him though, he has previous and the complete lack of remorse at any point after should be a real factor.

I've already given my perspective in this thread of the incident (summary: stupid, deserves a ban, blight on his legacy), but I do want to clear up a misconception. Yes Etzebeth does love the enforcer role and does get in peoples faces in scuffles (loves to grab a collar.. and tbh does too much risky stuff of getting his hands in the face of other players). But what Etzebeth doesn't have is a bad disciplinary record. Since his debut in 2012, he has received a total of 4 yellow cards, and this is first red card. He had one suspension back in his first season in 2012 for an attempted headbutt on Nathan Sharpe.

The reason I'm raising this is I fully suspect that the tick box in the mitigation category for "Good Record" will be ticked for Etzebeth - which will technically be correct.

Posting one of the review cards from this series for context of what is assessed - noting that I believe some of the categories will be different for an eye-gouging incident (but I've double checked and a player's disciplinary record is included in there for mitigation).

 

[Ddanno]

I have different opinions than you. It’s okay. You don’t have to try to ban me or silence me or make your little childish remarks.

I get that in your world, this is how people operate.

This isn’t the UK. We can have alternative opinions. We are not governed here by your little groupthink mindset.

I'll spit on you, then stick a thumb in your eye. Tell me which was worse.

 

[ChicagoKid]

I'll spit on you, then stick a thumb in your eye. Tell me which was worse.

Whatever gets you off. I’m not here to question your fetishes.