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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 317077" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>Happy with front row; actually strongest we've fielded for while. Bench of Ralepelle and Jannie, though... dissapointing. Ralepele is the 4rth choice hooker of the Bulls behind Botha, Kuun and Maku nevermind SA. Liebenberg has a lot to feel unlucky about; def the next behind an injured Bismark with Strauss and Gary Botha the only real contenders. Jannie, I've always felt is a liability in the loose and discipline wise. Had a good last match, though and I know PdV doesn't want to include too many newbies. Fair enough.</p><p> </p><p>Second row looks good considering Bakkies and Victor are being rested. Bekker and Rossouw the form locks anyway IMO. Hargreaves ahead of Sykes, vd Merwe and just about any other first-chpoice Super14 lock? No way. Not even debatable.</p><p> </p><p>Glad for FLouw in the backrow; had an immense season and so consistant. Potgieter waaaaayy overated. Would rather have seen Vermeulen, Deysel, Botes in there considering Schalla, Juan and Spies are being rested. I'd like to see Deysel at 8 some time.. Joe van Niekerk should be interesting; personally haven't followed his playing overseas. Thta said, I'm not a big fan of Kanko in a Bok jersey; great athlete but not for test rugby. So with Spies resting, Danie playing lock etc I guess van Niekerk makes sense. Him being a captain in a NH club side probably means he can be a great help to Smit captaining the side as well.</p><p> </p><p>Januarie isn't even the Stormers 1st choice but is SA's 2nd? He is there on past performances and myths. Way behind Pienaar, Kockott, Duvenhage, Pretorius, Vermaak although Vermaak struggled with injury and I can understand Pienaar at pivot as we have loads of class scrumhalves but lack in the flyhalf dept. Peter Grant unlucky not to make the bench at least, though. Or Butch considering he has stated that he wants to test overseas based players. Meyer-turnstile-Bosman? Doesn't even make the 11th placed S14 starting team but benches it for teh Boks; really ****** at PdV for cheapening the green & gold.</p><p> </p><p>Jean de Villiers and Juan de Jongh not our best but then they are probably being rested. Interesting seeing Butch James there and de Villiers at 13.. would have understood de Villiers at 12 and de Jongh at 13 with James on the bench. Peter Grant again a bit unfortunate not to get a look in with Olivier and Fourie being rested. Would like to see Olivier get a chance to make a step up in the Bok jersey. That said, he has already wasted a couple. Maybe he is more suited to 13 in the Bok set-up. All-in-all, although I distrust the look of this center combo, can't say I'm not interested to see it under fire. Wales is probably one of the better sides too test a center combo against. Jones, Roberts and Hook with a great back three that joins the line...</p><p> </p><p>Okay, so Habana needs a rest and Pieteresn and Mapoe are injured. Aplon and Basson I am glad for and they deserve to be there even though I feel the Bulls wings have reason to be disspointed but Odwa? I think it is about time to put wingers who haven't scored tries this year to bed no matter how likeable they are. Wingers are there to finish tries. We have much much better even if we have to do a Cory Jane and select Killian/Lambie/Pietersen(Joe)/ Kirschner/Ludik. Any one of these ahead of Odwa. Guess PdV felt he allready did with Aplon who can cover fullback. Glad to see Frans Steyn back at 15 although he didn't get gametime there which is a bit worrying. Strange not to see kirschner; I've always been a bit of a critic but he has had a good S14 series (defense could be better) and I would have kept my mouth shut. Possibly PdV sees him as a sure starter ahead of Steyn and has opted to rest him?</p><p> </p><p>All-in-all I have a few gripes but considering many players are resting/injured those gripes are mainly with the bench and although there are better, I guess Januarie and Odwa have experience counting in their favour. At least we should fair better than last year's EoY joke dirt trackers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 317077, member: 39190"] Happy with front row; actually strongest we've fielded for while. Bench of Ralepelle and Jannie, though... dissapointing. Ralepele is the 4rth choice hooker of the Bulls behind Botha, Kuun and Maku nevermind SA. Liebenberg has a lot to feel unlucky about; def the next behind an injured Bismark with Strauss and Gary Botha the only real contenders. Jannie, I've always felt is a liability in the loose and discipline wise. Had a good last match, though and I know PdV doesn't want to include too many newbies. Fair enough. Second row looks good considering Bakkies and Victor are being rested. Bekker and Rossouw the form locks anyway IMO. Hargreaves ahead of Sykes, vd Merwe and just about any other first-chpoice Super14 lock? No way. Not even debatable. Glad for FLouw in the backrow; had an immense season and so consistant. Potgieter waaaaayy overated. Would rather have seen Vermeulen, Deysel, Botes in there considering Schalla, Juan and Spies are being rested. I'd like to see Deysel at 8 some time.. Joe van Niekerk should be interesting; personally haven't followed his playing overseas. Thta said, I'm not a big fan of Kanko in a Bok jersey; great athlete but not for test rugby. So with Spies resting, Danie playing lock etc I guess van Niekerk makes sense. Him being a captain in a NH club side probably means he can be a great help to Smit captaining the side as well. Januarie isn't even the Stormers 1st choice but is SA's 2nd? He is there on past performances and myths. Way behind Pienaar, Kockott, Duvenhage, Pretorius, Vermaak although Vermaak struggled with injury and I can understand Pienaar at pivot as we have loads of class scrumhalves but lack in the flyhalf dept. Peter Grant unlucky not to make the bench at least, though. Or Butch considering he has stated that he wants to test overseas based players. Meyer-turnstile-Bosman? Doesn't even make the 11th placed S14 starting team but benches it for teh Boks; really ****** at PdV for cheapening the green & gold. Jean de Villiers and Juan de Jongh not our best but then they are probably being rested. Interesting seeing Butch James there and de Villiers at 13.. would have understood de Villiers at 12 and de Jongh at 13 with James on the bench. Peter Grant again a bit unfortunate not to get a look in with Olivier and Fourie being rested. Would like to see Olivier get a chance to make a step up in the Bok jersey. That said, he has already wasted a couple. Maybe he is more suited to 13 in the Bok set-up. All-in-all, although I distrust the look of this center combo, can't say I'm not interested to see it under fire. Wales is probably one of the better sides too test a center combo against. Jones, Roberts and Hook with a great back three that joins the line... Okay, so Habana needs a rest and Pieteresn and Mapoe are injured. Aplon and Basson I am glad for and they deserve to be there even though I feel the Bulls wings have reason to be disspointed but Odwa? I think it is about time to put wingers who haven't scored tries this year to bed no matter how likeable they are. Wingers are there to finish tries. We have much much better even if we have to do a Cory Jane and select Killian/Lambie/Pietersen(Joe)/ Kirschner/Ludik. Any one of these ahead of Odwa. Guess PdV felt he allready did with Aplon who can cover fullback. Glad to see Frans Steyn back at 15 although he didn't get gametime there which is a bit worrying. Strange not to see kirschner; I've always been a bit of a critic but he has had a good S14 series (defense could be better) and I would have kept my mouth shut. Possibly PdV sees him as a sure starter ahead of Steyn and has opted to rest him? All-in-all I have a few gripes but considering many players are resting/injured those gripes are mainly with the bench and although there are better, I guess Januarie and Odwa have experience counting in their favour. At least we should fair better than last year's EoY joke dirt trackers. [/QUOTE]
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