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<blockquote data-quote="Fred187" data-source="post: 236562"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danny @ Jan 7 2009, 06:11 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=369780" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, I forgot that, despite knowing nothing about me, or my cultural or genetic background, you are still a much better judge of my ethnicity than myself. I'll remember in future to refer to you before disclosing any fact about my personage, to prevent any misrepresentation.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Jan 7 2009, 07:53 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=369793" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well done son, you've learned ur lesson well, the media is doing a good job... Use just a little bit of critical thinking, that will make you human instead of being a clone...</p><p></p><p>this retaliation is NOT justified, but when you think about it, Israel (Zion) always behaved this way... M16 vs. Rocks, Use of guided Missile to get rid of a guy in a wheelchair (remember the attacks on Arafat?) and now that...</p><p></p><p>Re your coment about Palestine (what's left of it) being supported by other nations... LMFO! Israel is backed by the US, England, France. That's already 3 of the top 10 armies in the World... compared to Lebanon, Iran, and maybe Egypt... you see the difference don't you? or you just got too much Sh*t numbing your grey cells?</p><p></p><p>Can't you see Israel is US soil in the middle east? Can't you see that there's no Israel as such and that the Zionist doctrine is as forceful as Hamas or Al Qaeda (the group, not the CIA database), that's ethnic purification, that's f#cking disgusting.</p><p></p><p>Isrealies and Palestinians DO NOT hate eachother, before the massive exodus of Israelis that started back in the 20's (Yes, much before 1948) there was no real problem, and even tho Palestinians were in greater numbers, they never used oppression like the Zionist Gvt does. Let's not forget that 99% of the gvt that follow Shimon Peres and Itzac Rabin have been extreme-right gvt.</p><p></p><p>If an extreme-right gvt took control in France, England, the US or Russia, don't you think the international community would object out loud? i think they would, but for Israel it's O.K.</p><p></p><p>There will be no peace cause this is not part of the agenda, the Zionist in charge of Israel and in charge of the world medias, banks, Western Gvt have other plans. Do your research on Sarkozy (and his brother Olivier), the Bush family (included Prescot the grand-dad), Clinton, Rumsfeld, Cheney, the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, the Morgan, see for yourself how all those guys are interconnected all they have in common. Look at Obama's gvt, see for yourself who he "chose", scratch the surface and see how all this new U.S gvt is pro-israel and wont do anything to stop the oppression, despite everything puppet Obama said he would "change"...</p><p></p><p>All this is so disgustingly manipulated that it becomes "funny" (in a very ironic way...)</p><p></p><p></p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Be careful from not going from antizionism which is something that can be dicussed although this is a lost war to antisemitism which has no justification. You're involving many people in kind of conspiracy to support Israel due to some of their origins and making questionable assertions. There are point in your post which are interesting and would deserve more discussion but on the other hand your final statements are not very rational and ambiguous.</p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism - they are barely even related. Why? Because Being Jewish and supporting Israel are not the same thing. I'm (racially) Jewish, but I can easily see that Israel is, and always has been, an abomination. Israeli's accuse anti-zionists of being anti-semitic in order to blindside the world into supporting them. Nothing Israel ever does can be justified, because it's existence as a nation cannot be justified. I invite anybody to try to justify, using logic (rather than saying, as most Israeli's do: 'god promised it to us, so it's ours'), the existence of Israel... Nope? Didn't think so.</p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p></p><p>I agree. Although if you analyse things thouroughly you can question pretty much anyone's "right" to nationhood.</p><p></p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p></p><p>This is true, but few countries to the extent of Israel. For example , The US was basically just taken from Native Americans, but the issues between the original natives and the colonists have essentially cleared themselves up, and the natives are now assimilated into the new culture. This is true of most nations formed on any colonial basis, meaning the 'right to nationhood' is essentially irrelevant. But the problem with Israel is that it wasn't colonized - it was literally stolen, and the natives were thrown out. No assimilation of cultures has occured whatsoever, and the Israelis have made no effort to support the people of the territory that they stole.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Fred187, post: 236562"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danny @ Jan 7 2009, 06:11 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=369780']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> I'm sorry, I forgot that, despite knowing nothing about me, or my cultural or genetic background, you are still a much better judge of my ethnicity than myself. I'll remember in future to refer to you before disclosing any fact about my personage, to prevent any misrepresentation. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Jan 7 2009, 07:53 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=369793']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Well done son, you've learned ur lesson well, the media is doing a good job... Use just a little bit of critical thinking, that will make you human instead of being a clone... this retaliation is NOT justified, but when you think about it, Israel (Zion) always behaved this way... M16 vs. Rocks, Use of guided Missile to get rid of a guy in a wheelchair (remember the attacks on Arafat?) and now that... Re your coment about Palestine (what's left of it) being supported by other nations... LMFO! Israel is backed by the US, England, France. That's already 3 of the top 10 armies in the World... compared to Lebanon, Iran, and maybe Egypt... you see the difference don't you? or you just got too much Sh*t numbing your grey cells? Can't you see Israel is US soil in the middle east? Can't you see that there's no Israel as such and that the Zionist doctrine is as forceful as Hamas or Al Qaeda (the group, not the CIA database), that's ethnic purification, that's f#cking disgusting. Isrealies and Palestinians DO NOT hate eachother, before the massive exodus of Israelis that started back in the 20's (Yes, much before 1948) there was no real problem, and even tho Palestinians were in greater numbers, they never used oppression like the Zionist Gvt does. Let's not forget that 99% of the gvt that follow Shimon Peres and Itzac Rabin have been extreme-right gvt. If an extreme-right gvt took control in France, England, the US or Russia, don't you think the international community would object out loud? i think they would, but for Israel it's O.K. There will be no peace cause this is not part of the agenda, the Zionist in charge of Israel and in charge of the world medias, banks, Western Gvt have other plans. Do your research on Sarkozy (and his brother Olivier), the Bush family (included Prescot the grand-dad), Clinton, Rumsfeld, Cheney, the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, the Morgan, see for yourself how all those guys are interconnected all they have in common. Look at Obama's gvt, see for yourself who he "chose", scratch the surface and see how all this new U.S gvt is pro-israel and wont do anything to stop the oppression, despite everything puppet Obama said he would "change"... All this is so disgustingly manipulated that it becomes "funny" (in a very ironic way...) [/b][/quote] Be careful from not going from antizionism which is something that can be dicussed although this is a lost war to antisemitism which has no justification. You're involving many people in kind of conspiracy to support Israel due to some of their origins and making questionable assertions. There are point in your post which are interesting and would deserve more discussion but on the other hand your final statements are not very rational and ambiguous. [/b][/quote] Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism - they are barely even related. Why? Because Being Jewish and supporting Israel are not the same thing. I'm (racially) Jewish, but I can easily see that Israel is, and always has been, an abomination. Israeli's accuse anti-zionists of being anti-semitic in order to blindside the world into supporting them. Nothing Israel ever does can be justified, because it's existence as a nation cannot be justified. I invite anybody to try to justify, using logic (rather than saying, as most Israeli's do: 'god promised it to us, so it's ours'), the existence of Israel... Nope? Didn't think so. [/b][/quote] I agree. Although if you analyse things thouroughly you can question pretty much anyone's "right" to nationhood. [/b][/quote] This is true, but few countries to the extent of Israel. For example , The US was basically just taken from Native Americans, but the issues between the original natives and the colonists have essentially cleared themselves up, and the natives are now assimilated into the new culture. This is true of most nations formed on any colonial basis, meaning the 'right to nationhood' is essentially irrelevant. But the problem with Israel is that it wasn't colonized - it was literally stolen, and the natives were thrown out. No assimilation of cultures has occured whatsoever, and the Israelis have made no effort to support the people of the territory that they stole. [/QUOTE]
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