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<blockquote data-quote="KZNSharksFan" data-source="post: 236853"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fred187 @ Jan 9 2009, 03:29 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=370086" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>I disagree completely; the right side and the wrong side became clear as soon as the whole conflict began in the late 40s. The simple fact of the matter is, there used to exist a nation called Palestine. Some British (ashamedly, a Scotsman) zionist conservative politician decides that should be the homeland for the Jews, so he gives the many other zionists the needed support to make that happen, allowing them to throw out the native peoples and declare the land to be 'Israel'. It's pretty black and white - they stole the land from it's natives, and have been opressing them ever since. The only reason people don't see it like that is because they are blind-sided by distaste for anti-semitism and 'terrorists'.</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>You're partly right. I think it was wrong indeed for that land to be taken and I always have.</p><p>But, what of the issue of the 2nd and 3rd generation Isreali's now living in Israel. That land is their home. One can't simply evict them and say that solves the problem in a fair and ethical way. The reality is the current situation isn't anyone in particular's fault but undoubtedly all this trouble would have been averted had the Jews remained in Europe. </p><p></p><p>The right and wrong side may have been clear in the 40's, but it isn't now. 60 years has complicated the issue and now blame lies with both sides, though Israel I agree should probably share a larger proportion of it.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="KZNSharksFan, post: 236853"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fred187 @ Jan 9 2009, 03:29 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=370086']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> I disagree completely; the right side and the wrong side became clear as soon as the whole conflict began in the late 40s. The simple fact of the matter is, there used to exist a nation called Palestine. Some British (ashamedly, a Scotsman) zionist conservative politician decides that should be the homeland for the Jews, so he gives the many other zionists the needed support to make that happen, allowing them to throw out the native peoples and declare the land to be 'Israel'. It's pretty black and white - they stole the land from it's natives, and have been opressing them ever since. The only reason people don't see it like that is because they are blind-sided by distaste for anti-semitism and 'terrorists'. [/b][/quote] You're partly right. I think it was wrong indeed for that land to be taken and I always have. But, what of the issue of the 2nd and 3rd generation Isreali's now living in Israel. That land is their home. One can't simply evict them and say that solves the problem in a fair and ethical way. The reality is the current situation isn't anyone in particular's fault but undoubtedly all this trouble would have been averted had the Jews remained in Europe. The right and wrong side may have been clear in the 40's, but it isn't now. 60 years has complicated the issue and now blame lies with both sides, though Israel I agree should probably share a larger proportion of it. [/QUOTE]
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