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<blockquote data-quote="Enguelaz" data-source="post: 237035"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danny @ Jan 10 2009, 05:29 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=370162" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>Thanks Danny... Now please read again my initial post and pin point where i actually wrote that i was pro-palestinian and a free world hater. I certainly question Israel in that conflict as their mean of response to rockets and the following attacks on UN properties are in my view disproportionate. but does that mean that I support people who fire rockets on civilians? Noway, what kind of sick people could naturaly think like that.</p><p></p><p>My point is that Danny, because i said something that you didn't agree with you assumed that i support the "wrong side"... and then followed the hatred, the insults and generalizations that i usually see on Fox news... that's was very disturbing... and at the end of the day, how are you ever sure you're on the "right side"? think about it...</p><p></p><p>Did you just one second thought that i could not agree with both the Hamas and Israel on different issues? Contrary to what we are taught at school or church (of any confession) and shown on TV, the world IS NOT just black and white, there are those shades of grey that we need to explore and which help us defining a fair judgement. and you usually end up being neutral... which certainly gives you a better view on the problem because you become a spectator to the game, not deeply involved in it and looking to fulfill your interests to the expense of fairness.</p><p></p><p>Seeing the world as black or white, muslim or jewish, democratic or totalitarian only leads to generalization and categorization. Roots of racism, antisemitism, hypocrisy, hatred, biaised judgment and ultimately what we witness today between Israel and Paletsine is the result of this categorization and generalization.</p><p></p><p>Danny, I appreciate you gesture, but i have never been at war with you, i was trying to expose and document a few points, the only thing i got in return is insults and leaps to conclusions, canceling any debate.</p><p></p><p>I will go further than Danny and say that this thread has in reality been at the image of our "free-world". We are so proud of our freedom of speech, respect of the difference, free thinking and all the apparent freedom and claim high and loud this is how it should be done in a Democratic world. But look at what happened on this forum, the same people claiming supporting the free world were in my view very aggressive and completely disrespecting of the bases of any democracy in the western world. That's the modern way of censoring the people we don't agree with. the governments do not need to do it and look totalitarian because the population is now doing this dirty work on its own.</p><p></p><p>This thread is a perfect example of the global mascarade we're part of and how easily we all become pawns in the game.</p><p></p><p>I accept your hand of friendship if you accept to stop categorizing, generalizing and offending the people you don't agree with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enguelaz, post: 237035"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danny @ Jan 10 2009, 05:29 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=370162']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Thanks Danny... Now please read again my initial post and pin point where i actually wrote that i was pro-palestinian and a free world hater. I certainly question Israel in that conflict as their mean of response to rockets and the following attacks on UN properties are in my view disproportionate. but does that mean that I support people who fire rockets on civilians? Noway, what kind of sick people could naturaly think like that. My point is that Danny, because i said something that you didn't agree with you assumed that i support the "wrong side"... and then followed the hatred, the insults and generalizations that i usually see on Fox news... that's was very disturbing... and at the end of the day, how are you ever sure you're on the "right side"? think about it... Did you just one second thought that i could not agree with both the Hamas and Israel on different issues? Contrary to what we are taught at school or church (of any confession) and shown on TV, the world IS NOT just black and white, there are those shades of grey that we need to explore and which help us defining a fair judgement. and you usually end up being neutral... which certainly gives you a better view on the problem because you become a spectator to the game, not deeply involved in it and looking to fulfill your interests to the expense of fairness. Seeing the world as black or white, muslim or jewish, democratic or totalitarian only leads to generalization and categorization. Roots of racism, antisemitism, hypocrisy, hatred, biaised judgment and ultimately what we witness today between Israel and Paletsine is the result of this categorization and generalization. Danny, I appreciate you gesture, but i have never been at war with you, i was trying to expose and document a few points, the only thing i got in return is insults and leaps to conclusions, canceling any debate. I will go further than Danny and say that this thread has in reality been at the image of our "free-world". We are so proud of our freedom of speech, respect of the difference, free thinking and all the apparent freedom and claim high and loud this is how it should be done in a Democratic world. But look at what happened on this forum, the same people claiming supporting the free world were in my view very aggressive and completely disrespecting of the bases of any democracy in the western world. That's the modern way of censoring the people we don't agree with. the governments do not need to do it and look totalitarian because the population is now doing this dirty work on its own. This thread is a perfect example of the global mascarade we're part of and how easily we all become pawns in the game. I accept your hand of friendship if you accept to stop categorizing, generalizing and offending the people you don't agree with. [/QUOTE]
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