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Weightlifter or bodybuilder training?
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Weight lifting all the way.
Body building is about making yourself look good, weight lifting is about shifting big weights.
Body building has a lot of isolation exercises which have no use in the real world (when's the last time you bicep curled someone off of the top of a ruck?)
Body building is about making yourself look good, weight lifting is about shifting big weights.
Body building has a lot of isolation exercises which have no use in the real world (when's the last time you bicep curled someone off of the top of a ruck?)
Yup what Olyy said. I also suggest mixing things up at regular intervals. Don't pick a routine and stick to it for months on end. For example I've been rorating between three different routines lately, each one lasting a month of so.
Routine 1 : high weight, 3 sets of between 8-12 reps, basically as much as I can push out every set.
Routine 2 : Lower weight, 5 sets of 12-15 reps, doing as many as possible on the final set.
Routine 3 : 5 sets. First set = medium weight, 12 reps. Second set = up the weight, lower the reps to 10. Third set = up the weight again, lower the reps to 8. Fourth and fifth set = stay at weight of 3rd set, maximum reps.
I do as many of the excersizes with free-weights as I can, i.e. dumbells and bars. I do however find the peck-deck machine much better than trying anythign with free-weights. I also make sure all my reps are controlled, i.e. breath out when working to a count of one, breath in returning to start to a count of three, repeat. Of course, mixing this up with some explosive sets is always good too.
Routine 1 : high weight, 3 sets of between 8-12 reps, basically as much as I can push out every set.
Routine 2 : Lower weight, 5 sets of 12-15 reps, doing as many as possible on the final set.
Routine 3 : 5 sets. First set = medium weight, 12 reps. Second set = up the weight, lower the reps to 10. Third set = up the weight again, lower the reps to 8. Fourth and fifth set = stay at weight of 3rd set, maximum reps.
I do as many of the excersizes with free-weights as I can, i.e. dumbells and bars. I do however find the peck-deck machine much better than trying anythign with free-weights. I also make sure all my reps are controlled, i.e. breath out when working to a count of one, breath in returning to start to a count of three, repeat. Of course, mixing this up with some explosive sets is always good too.
Thx for the answers!
So it's ok to find a routine in www.westside-barbell.com and follow it? and the interval between the reps change according with the routine or is always the same?(like 45-60sec)
So it's ok to find a routine in www.westside-barbell.com and follow it? and the interval between the reps change according with the routine or is always the same?(like 45-60sec)
exactly what this guy says, you wanna concentrate on the 3 main lifts Squats, Deadlift and Benchpress
it's fine to do some body build exercises (using machines and also doing high reps)
this is good to pack on mass
but you normaly gain plenty of mass aswell as lots of functional strength by simple weight lifting
That's true with many machines, but I've never come across such discrepancy's with the leg press! Afterall, squatting is a very linear movement, and it's therefore easy for machines to accurately simulate the same movements. I'd expect a little more on the machine as I don't think many accurately compensate for all the pulleys, joints, cable stretch etc. An example of this is I usually curl around the 30kg mark on a free-weight bar, but on a machine that figure can rise to 50+kg.
i believe the discrepancy was so large for 2 reasons firstly, the leg press does not exercise any of the smaller stabeliser muscles
secondly the leg press is still mostly an isolation exercise and so although he had large quads that were only trained in one range of movement his hamys, gluets and the whole of his back were no were near as stronge. his lower back expecially was very weak.
also in my opinion training your biceps is possibly the most irelevant thing you can do.
it makes me so angry when i ask people if they do weights and they reply 'yes'
i ask how much do you deadlift they ask 'whats a deadlift'
i ask what exercises they do they say o i do 'bicep curls 6 days a week' and bench press the other day
how can only training 12-13% of your muscle mass make you look big or make you stronger
it makes me so angry when i ask people if they do weights and they reply 'yes'
i ask how much do you deadlift they ask 'whats a deadlift'
i ask what exercises they do they say o i do 'bicep curls 6 days a week' and bench press the other day
how can only training 12-13% of your muscle mass make you look big or make you stronger
another one of my faviroutes is when a guy who can smith machine bench press250 ib's and curls 55ib's but has never done a lowerbody exercise in his life thinks he can squat 300 ib's no problem in my experience they tend to fail to reach the 200 mark
Very true eot345. I don't think bicep curls is a complete waste of time, but it should be done along with a variety of other excercises.
Btw, it's lb's not ib's. Means little to me though as I work in kilograms for pounds.
Btw, it's lb's not ib's. Means little to me though as I work in kilograms for pounds.
I meant to say 'kilograms NOT pounds'. Can we have the ability to edit posts in the general forum fixed please?
http://stronglifts.com/
Read through the free ebook on there,
The routine in there has all the lifts you'll need to be starting with, and you'll see your strenght increase a lot (i don't reccomend startnig with the empty bar though, i started with some weight on)
Site also has walkthroughs of how to do each exercise
Read through the free ebook on there,
The routine in there has all the lifts you'll need to be starting with, and you'll see your strenght increase a lot (i don't reccomend startnig with the empty bar though, i started with some weight on)
Site also has walkthroughs of how to do each exercise
Get the book Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe and read the entire thing. Also, check out www.wannabebig.com. The people there are very helpful and knowledgeable. Stop in there and ask for advice.
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