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<blockquote data-quote="BigTen" data-source="post: 125497"><p>Cam1505,</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>It is not that I am saying that I think that you are wrong when it comes to the Rugby World Cup being the third biggest sporting event in the world - iI have heard it referred to it as that before.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I just question that as I simply do not believe it.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I tend to question things that I do not believe to be true based on my intelligence and experience of the world. I realise that statistics can be manipulated easily to show whatever people want it to show.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I will go through all of your "sources" one by one"</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/eventsfest.../rugbyfinal.htm" target="_blank">http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/eventsfest.../rugbyfinal.htm</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is a trade website - they want to show Australia in the best light possible and by saying that they have hosted a high profile event makes them look good. I especially like the bit where they say "the third-largest sporting event in the world...and with a global television audience estimated at 4 billion."</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Estimated? What? Don't they have any confirmed figures. You do realise that there are less than 4 billion people on this planet that have access to a tv set, right!?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://travelblog.viator.com/rugby-world-cup-2007/" target="_blank">http://travelblog.viator.com/rugby-world-cup-2007/</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>In this they refer to it as the third biggest sporting event in the world with "...the organizing (sic) committee predicts 2.4 million spectators at Rugby World Cup 2007, and the event is being broadcast by 250 networks to four billion TV viewers around the planet ..."</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Hmmm maybe if they say it enough people will believe it without any further proof. Predicts, estimates, guesses, wishes...fishes...sniff, sniff what's that smell?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-2007/telecast-of-2007-rugby-world-cup.html" target="_blank">http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-200...-world-cup.html</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>"...Setanta Sports North America ranks as one of the world's most viewed sporting events, behind only the Olympics and FIFA World Cup..."</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This sounds like an advertisement to me. Well in that case why don't you grab a world-famous burger from the BigTen Burger Bar - we have the best burgers in the world and that's a fact! It is called puffery and when it isn't backed up by any hard proof everyone knows, or should know, that puffery is an inflated claim that should not be relied upon for any factual basis.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.frenchconnections.co.uk/for_holiday_makers/useful_information/the_rugby_world_cup_2007.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.frenchconnections.co.uk/for_hol...ld_cup_2007.cfm</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Oh hullo again they mention the third biggest sporting event again without any evidence. Someone must really believe in the school of thought that if you say something enough it must be true. Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest!</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Damn! It doesn't seem to be working. Back to school for me.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.austrade.gov.au/From-the-World-Trade-Organisation-to-the-Rugby-World-Cup-how-the-Wallabies-can-help-Australia-exports/default.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.austrade.gov.au/From-the-World-...ts/default.aspx</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Thanks for sending me to an Australian government website (can anyone say propaganda?) - although it was quite interesting reading about the similarities between rugby and international trade.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>"...Rugby World Cup will be the third largest sporting event in the world after the Olympics and the Soccer World Cup. The 1999 Rugby World Cup in Wales was attended by 1.75 million people and broadcast to a further three billion people in 150 countries, generating 70 million pounds in revenue..."</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Now let's have a look at that - 3 billion people and 70 millions pounds in revenue. I'd better get my calculator out to make sure I get this right. So that means that for every single person that "watched" the rugby world cup generated a huge 2 pence to the revenue. This must be the cheapest event in the world. How come I have to pay $60 a month for pay TV? Maybe I should just ask for the rugby world cup coverage and send them the 2 pence. I think that I have a couple of pennies lying around here somewhere. Maybe it was Cyprus Pounds?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I am beginning to think that someone is fudging the figures for such a low return on viewer numbers.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>And oh yeah the article thanks Gordon Bray for it's inspiration - now I should really be suspicious.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rugby-World-Official...e/dp/0954723481" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Rugby-World-Official...e/dp/0954723481</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is an advert - they would say that the rugby world cup cures cancer if they thought they would get away with it.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-200...tory/index.html" target="_blank">http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-200...tory/index.html</a></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is a website for a company that sells packages to the world cup so of course they are going to try and talk it up as much as possible.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Now that I have looked at all of the articles I am still unable to find any "proof" that the rugby world cup is the third biggest sporting event in the world.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I would love it if someone could find me proof as I would love to rub it front of all of my Aussie Rules loving workmates and Aussie friends who foolishly think that Aussie Rules is the greatest game ever.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>But all you have given me is empty claims and empty claims do not constitute proof sadly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigTen, post: 125497"] Cam1505, It is not that I am saying that I think that you are wrong when it comes to the Rugby World Cup being the third biggest sporting event in the world - iI have heard it referred to it as that before. I just question that as I simply do not believe it. I tend to question things that I do not believe to be true based on my intelligence and experience of the world. I realise that statistics can be manipulated easily to show whatever people want it to show. I will go through all of your "sources" one by one" [url="http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/eventsfest.../rugbyfinal.htm"]http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/eventsfest.../rugbyfinal.htm[/url] This is a trade website - they want to show Australia in the best light possible and by saying that they have hosted a high profile event makes them look good. I especially like the bit where they say "the third-largest sporting event in the world...and with a global television audience estimated at 4 billion." Estimated? What? Don't they have any confirmed figures. You do realise that there are less than 4 billion people on this planet that have access to a tv set, right!? [url="http://travelblog.viator.com/rugby-world-cup-2007/"]http://travelblog.viator.com/rugby-world-cup-2007/[/url] In this they refer to it as the third biggest sporting event in the world with "...the organizing (sic) committee predicts 2.4 million spectators at Rugby World Cup 2007, and the event is being broadcast by 250 networks to four billion TV viewers around the planet ..." Hmmm maybe if they say it enough people will believe it without any further proof. Predicts, estimates, guesses, wishes...fishes...sniff, sniff what's that smell? [url="http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-2007/telecast-of-2007-rugby-world-cup.html"]http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-200...-world-cup.html[/url] "...Setanta Sports North America ranks as one of the world's most viewed sporting events, behind only the Olympics and FIFA World Cup..." This sounds like an advertisement to me. Well in that case why don't you grab a world-famous burger from the BigTen Burger Bar - we have the best burgers in the world and that's a fact! It is called puffery and when it isn't backed up by any hard proof everyone knows, or should know, that puffery is an inflated claim that should not be relied upon for any factual basis. [url="http://www.frenchconnections.co.uk/for_holiday_makers/useful_information/the_rugby_world_cup_2007.cfm"]http://www.frenchconnections.co.uk/for_hol...ld_cup_2007.cfm[/url] Oh hullo again they mention the third biggest sporting event again without any evidence. Someone must really believe in the school of thought that if you say something enough it must be true. Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Send me money to my PayPal Account and I'll send you ten times as much back, honest! Damn! It doesn't seem to be working. Back to school for me. [url="http://www.austrade.gov.au/From-the-World-Trade-Organisation-to-the-Rugby-World-Cup-how-the-Wallabies-can-help-Australia-exports/default.aspx"]http://www.austrade.gov.au/From-the-World-...ts/default.aspx[/url] Thanks for sending me to an Australian government website (can anyone say propaganda?) - although it was quite interesting reading about the similarities between rugby and international trade. "...Rugby World Cup will be the third largest sporting event in the world after the Olympics and the Soccer World Cup. The 1999 Rugby World Cup in Wales was attended by 1.75 million people and broadcast to a further three billion people in 150 countries, generating 70 million pounds in revenue..." Now let's have a look at that - 3 billion people and 70 millions pounds in revenue. I'd better get my calculator out to make sure I get this right. So that means that for every single person that "watched" the rugby world cup generated a huge 2 pence to the revenue. This must be the cheapest event in the world. How come I have to pay $60 a month for pay TV? Maybe I should just ask for the rugby world cup coverage and send them the 2 pence. I think that I have a couple of pennies lying around here somewhere. Maybe it was Cyprus Pounds? I am beginning to think that someone is fudging the figures for such a low return on viewer numbers. And oh yeah the article thanks Gordon Bray for it's inspiration - now I should really be suspicious. [url="http://www.amazon.com/Rugby-World-Official...e/dp/0954723481"]http://www.amazon.com/Rugby-World-Official...e/dp/0954723481[/url] This is an advert - they would say that the rugby world cup cures cancer if they thought they would get away with it. [url="http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-200...tory/index.html"]http://holidayshub.com/rugby-world-cup-200...tory/index.html[/url] This is a website for a company that sells packages to the world cup so of course they are going to try and talk it up as much as possible. Now that I have looked at all of the articles I am still unable to find any "proof" that the rugby world cup is the third biggest sporting event in the world. I would love it if someone could find me proof as I would love to rub it front of all of my Aussie Rules loving workmates and Aussie friends who foolishly think that Aussie Rules is the greatest game ever. But all you have given me is empty claims and empty claims do not constitute proof sadly. [/QUOTE]
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