do you think it will be before we get THE rugby game we have been waiting for ? Sure there will always be tweaks to be made and teams to add, franchise etc, but when do you think a company will actually get the game right. When did madden first hit it ? Im right in thinking that yeah they add bits to madden but the actual core ie player movement and collision etc has been there for a while hasnt it ? You could still go back to a madden from a few years ago and the core still be there and familiar to the player because they got it right and have stuck with it. So when do you think it will be ? Im predicting 2007 before companies start to have got it all together after a few years on the project.