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<blockquote data-quote="rugbywriter" data-source="post: 321897" data-attributes="member: 42104"><p>You have made so many errors in there. Guys like you keep saying how fantastic he is as a utility back, but whenever he plays badly you say "it's because he must play scrumhalf". So if you really think about it, he's not much of a utility back. I'll hand it to him, he isn't a bad scrum half, but I feel that he is beyond useless as a fly-half (you don't have to agree with that, that's how I feel about him at flyhalf) and in his couple of games at fullback, he didn't exactly prove me wrong either. </p><p></p><p>I can understand the arguement about him being on the bench because he takes up less space then having a specialist in each position, but I don't understand why people would want him at fullback considering that he is deffinitely not the next best to Francois Steyn. I know that that is just "my opinion", but you can't honestly say that you believe with all your heart that Ruan Pienaar is South Africa's next best fullback. Besides, if he is such a wonderful scrumhalf, why then do so many people want to see him played in other positions. It just doesn't make sense.</p><p></p><p>You have your facts wrong with regards to the B&I Lions game. The game in Durban was the game when the Boks were well behind. Then PDV brought on Morne Steyn and Jaques Fourie and Jaques Fourie scored that try and Morne won the Boks the series with his kick. The first game was the one where the Boks were leading, and that was at Loftus or Jo'burg.</p><p></p><p>And you don't agree with my sum-up? SO you either feel:</p><p></p><p>(A) That he IS the second best scrumhalf? If that's so, why do you want to see him playing fullback when the scrumhalf position is available? Also, how many times to guys like Sarel Pretorious and Dewaldt Duvenhage have to out-perform him for you to feel that they are perhaps better? 100 matches? 200 matches?</p><p></p><p>(B) That he IS the second best fly-half? I don't even want to argue this point. If you think that he is the next best flyhalf to Morne Steyn then I really don't want to argue with you.</p><p></p><p>(C) That he is the best fullback. You say Riaan Viljoen is too inexperienced at Super14 level, but look at how inexperienced Aplon is and look how good he's proven himself to be? The problem with most South Africans is that they pick players based on reputation, not form. That's why the cricket team is an absolute joke, all the big names in there haven't performed in years yet they keep getting picked. Congrats Proteas, you beat the West Indies! What an achievement. Anyways, back to rugby, while Pienaar might have a fair bit of experience, he has just about no experience at fullback. Why put him there when we have fantastic specialists waiting in the wings?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rugbywriter, post: 321897, member: 42104"] You have made so many errors in there. Guys like you keep saying how fantastic he is as a utility back, but whenever he plays badly you say "it's because he must play scrumhalf". So if you really think about it, he's not much of a utility back. I'll hand it to him, he isn't a bad scrum half, but I feel that he is beyond useless as a fly-half (you don't have to agree with that, that's how I feel about him at flyhalf) and in his couple of games at fullback, he didn't exactly prove me wrong either. I can understand the arguement about him being on the bench because he takes up less space then having a specialist in each position, but I don't understand why people would want him at fullback considering that he is deffinitely not the next best to Francois Steyn. I know that that is just "my opinion", but you can't honestly say that you believe with all your heart that Ruan Pienaar is South Africa's next best fullback. Besides, if he is such a wonderful scrumhalf, why then do so many people want to see him played in other positions. It just doesn't make sense. You have your facts wrong with regards to the B&I Lions game. The game in Durban was the game when the Boks were well behind. Then PDV brought on Morne Steyn and Jaques Fourie and Jaques Fourie scored that try and Morne won the Boks the series with his kick. The first game was the one where the Boks were leading, and that was at Loftus or Jo'burg. And you don't agree with my sum-up? SO you either feel: (A) That he IS the second best scrumhalf? If that's so, why do you want to see him playing fullback when the scrumhalf position is available? Also, how many times to guys like Sarel Pretorious and Dewaldt Duvenhage have to out-perform him for you to feel that they are perhaps better? 100 matches? 200 matches? (B) That he IS the second best fly-half? I don't even want to argue this point. If you think that he is the next best flyhalf to Morne Steyn then I really don't want to argue with you. (C) That he is the best fullback. You say Riaan Viljoen is too inexperienced at Super14 level, but look at how inexperienced Aplon is and look how good he's proven himself to be? The problem with most South Africans is that they pick players based on reputation, not form. That's why the cricket team is an absolute joke, all the big names in there haven't performed in years yet they keep getting picked. Congrats Proteas, you beat the West Indies! What an achievement. Anyways, back to rugby, while Pienaar might have a fair bit of experience, he has just about no experience at fullback. Why put him there when we have fantastic specialists waiting in the wings? [/QUOTE]
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