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When do we start praising England's coaches?
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<blockquote data-quote="gingergenius" data-source="post: 355947" data-attributes="member: 33219"><p>1) So far, Johnson's had 3 Autumns in the job. So far that's earned us just one victory against meaningful SH oppposition.</p><p></p><p>2) Yes, the side currently looks like it can achieve somewhere close to what our resources and history expect. Johnson and the other coaching staff deserve credit for how the side's playing.</p><p></p><p>3) I am in no way, shape or form embarrassed about slagging off Johnson's coaching in the past. The fact is, he's so cautious and conservative in his coaching style that its taken 3 years for him to find a gameplan and team that are good enough. We may not have had Ashton and Youngs for 3 years, but there have been plenty of other talented guys who have <u>simply not been given the oppurtunity</u>, either early enough or at all. Lawes is as good an example as any - it took Johnson an entire year to realise that Deacon was ****.</p><p></p><p>I personally am giving Johnson very little credit, because any coach worth his salt could have made something with the kind of talent we've got. The French and the Australians were in similar positions to us, with ageing teams, and they've both made progress so much quicker than we did.</p><p></p><p>I don't think I'll ever be sorry for criticising a coach who unashamedly selects players like Deacon, Worsley, Goode, Noon, Erinle and Banahan when there are guys with genuine talent being ignored.</p><p></p><p>So while I've got nothing major to criticise England about at the moment, it's not a vindication of Johnson's methods of the past 3 years in which we've not been building for anything, simply going round in circles. This team only started being built against France this year. Almost 3 years into Johnson's tenure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gingergenius, post: 355947, member: 33219"] 1) So far, Johnson's had 3 Autumns in the job. So far that's earned us just one victory against meaningful SH oppposition. 2) Yes, the side currently looks like it can achieve somewhere close to what our resources and history expect. Johnson and the other coaching staff deserve credit for how the side's playing. 3) I am in no way, shape or form embarrassed about slagging off Johnson's coaching in the past. The fact is, he's so cautious and conservative in his coaching style that its taken 3 years for him to find a gameplan and team that are good enough. We may not have had Ashton and Youngs for 3 years, but there have been plenty of other talented guys who have [U]simply not been given the oppurtunity[/U], either early enough or at all. Lawes is as good an example as any - it took Johnson an entire year to realise that Deacon was ****. I personally am giving Johnson very little credit, because any coach worth his salt could have made something with the kind of talent we've got. The French and the Australians were in similar positions to us, with ageing teams, and they've both made progress so much quicker than we did. I don't think I'll ever be sorry for criticising a coach who unashamedly selects players like Deacon, Worsley, Goode, Noon, Erinle and Banahan when there are guys with genuine talent being ignored. So while I've got nothing major to criticise England about at the moment, it's not a vindication of Johnson's methods of the past 3 years in which we've not been building for anything, simply going round in circles. This team only started being built against France this year. Almost 3 years into Johnson's tenure. [/QUOTE]
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