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<blockquote data-quote="nickdnz" data-source="post: 337024" data-attributes="member: 38640"><p>1. I understand what you mean, but you sort of missed the point. He would look stupid if he said he wasn't passionate about being an All Black, and it wasn't a "dream". It would create even more negativity about him. If he gains something by saying something, why should I believe him? It's not like he seems above dishonesty, is it?</p><p> </p><p>2. When I use the word "dream" I use is for something I am the most passionate about. Your example of Martin Luther King is obsurd, as civil rights was the thing he was most passionate about. SBW uses the word dream in just about every thing he does, it gets to the point that it's like "I've always dreamed to hava a meatlovers Pizza".</p><p> </p><p>3. My point is it's not really his passion. If it was, he'd have played rugby in NZ much earlier. The harm is that it undermines the value of the AB jersey. Many NH posters don't seem to understand what the jersey means, but it's pretty much the equivelant of giving somone like Danny Cipriani the Lions jersey over Jones, Wilkinson, O'Gara etc, and then the following season he goes to play football. Do you understand? No matter how talented he might been, and even if you won the Lions tour, the honour of playing for you nation should never be seen as a stepping stone for othger things, it should be the pinicle.</p><p> </p><p>4. Wrong again. I'm fine with him being a league player. Umaga played league and he became one of my favourite All Blacks. The difference being, he didn't start on a salery higher than established players, and he showed he was committed to rugby and New Zealand. Sonny Bill Williams has never shown he is commited to anything, and I don't think he will. As I said, if he sticks around for the 2015 RWC, I'll eat my words but I doubt that will happen.</p><p> </p><p>5. You've got to earn your chance. What has SBW done for NZ rugby for him to be payed as much as he is? Nothing.</p><p> </p><p>This has nothing to do with his talent. It's just he does not deserve to be treated like he has been treated. He's shown next to no commitment to NZ rugby, other than a two year contract during the RWC, while other players who have fought for years to earn a chance to represent their country in the RWC, will have to miss out and it isn't fair. I'd have rather that money done to bringing Nick Evans back, as we need a proven and world class 1st 5/8th to back up Carter, when we're spoilt for options in the midfield.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickdnz, post: 337024, member: 38640"] 1. I understand what you mean, but you sort of missed the point. He would look stupid if he said he wasn't passionate about being an All Black, and it wasn't a "dream". It would create even more negativity about him. If he gains something by saying something, why should I believe him? It's not like he seems above dishonesty, is it? 2. When I use the word "dream" I use is for something I am the most passionate about. Your example of Martin Luther King is obsurd, as civil rights was the thing he was most passionate about. SBW uses the word dream in just about every thing he does, it gets to the point that it's like "I've always dreamed to hava a meatlovers Pizza". 3. My point is it's not really his passion. If it was, he'd have played rugby in NZ much earlier. The harm is that it undermines the value of the AB jersey. Many NH posters don't seem to understand what the jersey means, but it's pretty much the equivelant of giving somone like Danny Cipriani the Lions jersey over Jones, Wilkinson, O'Gara etc, and then the following season he goes to play football. Do you understand? No matter how talented he might been, and even if you won the Lions tour, the honour of playing for you nation should never be seen as a stepping stone for othger things, it should be the pinicle. 4. Wrong again. I'm fine with him being a league player. Umaga played league and he became one of my favourite All Blacks. The difference being, he didn't start on a salery higher than established players, and he showed he was committed to rugby and New Zealand. Sonny Bill Williams has never shown he is commited to anything, and I don't think he will. As I said, if he sticks around for the 2015 RWC, I'll eat my words but I doubt that will happen. 5. You've got to earn your chance. What has SBW done for NZ rugby for him to be payed as much as he is? Nothing. This has nothing to do with his talent. It's just he does not deserve to be treated like he has been treated. He's shown next to no commitment to NZ rugby, other than a two year contract during the RWC, while other players who have fought for years to earn a chance to represent their country in the RWC, will have to miss out and it isn't fair. I'd have rather that money done to bringing Nick Evans back, as we need a proven and world class 1st 5/8th to back up Carter, when we're spoilt for options in the midfield. [/QUOTE]
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