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Why isn't Rugby league much bigger in Ireland? (or Wales and Scotland)
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<blockquote data-quote="welshglory" data-source="post: 642202" data-attributes="member: 38673"><p>The biggest thing i can't stand about union is that most top level matches are decided by referees. It's pretty basic at levels under pro level, but it's too complicated a game to ref with all the analysis that teams do these days, they will find any way to exploit the laws. There's nothing they (refs) can do it about it either, they do a bloody good job for the most part because it's almost impossible to please everybody because of the number of laws there are. </p><p>Like how the hell can you expect the ref to look at intent? How the hell is he supposed to be able to tell that? Do you want him to profile players? or racially stereotype? Or take into account past (not in game) actions which is ridiculous.</p><p>It's not even in the law book ffs you dumb emotional thick heads, think for a second will you.</p><p>This is why need to make things simpler, not league simple though. We need to clean them up and refine them...somehow.</p><p></p><p>I really hope that if some big incident happens in the future they all decide to strike. I really do, i would fully support them and encourage them. Then it would shut up most of the thick heads possibly. These guys are doing it for the love of the game.</p><p></p><p>I really feel for refs i do, without them we wouldn't have a game and yet they have an impossible job. Plus the game is professional so they are scrutinised from every direction possible.</p><p></p><p>The rucks are a shambles and it will in games change depending on refs, team intent, styles.</p><p>Scrums need to be cleaned up somehow. No idea. The current laws have done absolutely nothing imo. It's actually made it worse for the attacking teams since the opposing team will just shove you off the ball lol!!! It's a joke. It's always been fine under pro level though...hmmm funny that. You need to make it impossible for teams and refs to have their own interpretation. We need to really look at the biomechanics of it. Something needs to radically change but i still want it to be a contest and a way to restart the game. Not the joke that is the scrum in rugby league.</p><p></p><p>Lineouts though are perfect now, i have no idea why anyone would want to see that go. It gives us great variation in athletes as well.</p><p></p><p>I don't care for league, when i watch it i'm just not interested about it.</p><p>League just looks like 13 man bashing it into each other and then kicking it after 5 of those to me with a some guys running in waves behind other guys.</p><p></p><p>I like the multi faceted play from union, the war/gladiatorial like feel to it. I love the tactical and strategic element of it. It feels more free flowing to me, i don't know but for me league feels really tight and regimented.</p><p>It's different to any other team sport because of all these things and this is why i love it. I love the camaraderie, i love that anybody can play it, i love how tight nit the rugby community is around the world, the drinking culture... for the most part. However i hate the snobbish attitude that some hold, the amateur head in the sand attitude, the old boy mentality. Important to note that these are very prevalent in places where the game is played with the lower class as well in NZ, Wales, Ireland so it's not a class thing. It's a dick-head and rugby union thing. It's a sort of we're better than everybody else attitude and we're more pure. It absolutely sickens me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="welshglory, post: 642202, member: 38673"] The biggest thing i can't stand about union is that most top level matches are decided by referees. It's pretty basic at levels under pro level, but it's too complicated a game to ref with all the analysis that teams do these days, they will find any way to exploit the laws. There's nothing they (refs) can do it about it either, they do a bloody good job for the most part because it's almost impossible to please everybody because of the number of laws there are. Like how the hell can you expect the ref to look at intent? How the hell is he supposed to be able to tell that? Do you want him to profile players? or racially stereotype? Or take into account past (not in game) actions which is ridiculous. It's not even in the law book ffs you dumb emotional thick heads, think for a second will you. This is why need to make things simpler, not league simple though. We need to clean them up and refine them...somehow. I really hope that if some big incident happens in the future they all decide to strike. I really do, i would fully support them and encourage them. Then it would shut up most of the thick heads possibly. These guys are doing it for the love of the game. I really feel for refs i do, without them we wouldn't have a game and yet they have an impossible job. Plus the game is professional so they are scrutinised from every direction possible. The rucks are a shambles and it will in games change depending on refs, team intent, styles. Scrums need to be cleaned up somehow. No idea. The current laws have done absolutely nothing imo. It's actually made it worse for the attacking teams since the opposing team will just shove you off the ball lol!!! It's a joke. It's always been fine under pro level though...hmmm funny that. You need to make it impossible for teams and refs to have their own interpretation. We need to really look at the biomechanics of it. Something needs to radically change but i still want it to be a contest and a way to restart the game. Not the joke that is the scrum in rugby league. Lineouts though are perfect now, i have no idea why anyone would want to see that go. It gives us great variation in athletes as well. I don't care for league, when i watch it i'm just not interested about it. League just looks like 13 man bashing it into each other and then kicking it after 5 of those to me with a some guys running in waves behind other guys. I like the multi faceted play from union, the war/gladiatorial like feel to it. I love the tactical and strategic element of it. It feels more free flowing to me, i don't know but for me league feels really tight and regimented. It's different to any other team sport because of all these things and this is why i love it. I love the camaraderie, i love that anybody can play it, i love how tight nit the rugby community is around the world, the drinking culture... for the most part. However i hate the snobbish attitude that some hold, the amateur head in the sand attitude, the old boy mentality. Important to note that these are very prevalent in places where the game is played with the lower class as well in NZ, Wales, Ireland so it's not a class thing. It's a dick-head and rugby union thing. It's a sort of we're better than everybody else attitude and we're more pure. It absolutely sickens me. [/QUOTE]
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