I mean they need homes, hospitals, schools, money and so on. So unless you have a tardis they can live in and a money tree, that's not really a good take, is it?
You realise that immigration benefits economies right and that most immigrants add more to the economy than they take out. Post Brexit, immigration goes up, because it's needed economically. Italy elects a far right government, immigration goes up. It's all smoke a mirrors to galvanise a base, when actually the politicians themselves know that economically they need immigration.
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I mean, it wouldn't have worked prior to the threat of deportation to Rwanda. Ireland wasn't any better of an option than the UK, arguably worse for people with hopes of getting low skill employment of some sort also. The back door migration from NI is also high to the point that our government, who are staunchly against the right wing crowd mentioned above by @Saintjay, is taking preventative emergency action. The timing is incredibly suspicious to the point it's hard to believe that unofficial lines of communication are getting people there.
I'm aware of that although 7 times the amount of refugees compared to 13 times the population shows the issue on our end here. It's not an even split or close.
I'm also aware of that but when it's mostly UK based groups working with scumbags here and now the UK Gov are almost endorsing them by in their most recent actions it's really dangerous. Like it's already at the point where asylum seekers aren't safe due to a lack of infrastructure here nevermind the self proclaimed "patriots" attacking them.
Yes and I'm not disputing that. They still need homes, hospitals, schools etc and that's where the government is failing. Economically is not always the best measurement for this either tbf. It doesn't take all the factors into consideration.
Controlled immigration yes, uncontrolled influx of people crossing illegally into a country only benefits criminal gangs and foreign powers looking to destabilise one another
So Ireland should actually be happy about the influx of people. Seems like it's a win, win for them. When there government are just pandering to the riff raff
So what other factors are there?
Is it a government failing or is it the reality of living in a society rather than an open market libertarian free for all?
Good to see you ignore the other comments. Did they say something you can't reply with?
And Britain is rife with uncontrolled immigration?
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I was, but it took some time to gather the facts and evidence.Good to see you ignore the other comments. Did they say something you can't reply with?
As others above have stated, but I would also throw in more social ones too. You're talking about bringing in people from a completely different background with different ideologies, beliefs, languages and needs person to person. You'd have to be a fool to say that doesn't have some effect.
I mean, if 13 years isn't long enough to plan and allocate resources then I don't know what is.
Just to clarify, but the EU has been trying to deter 'illegal migration' for years throw extremely dodgy means.
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Based on those figures I'm not sure but is seems within three/four years on current pace illegal migrants / asylum applicants entering the UK by boat would equate to the population of Cambridge City. Within eight your looking at the population of Nottingham. The figures also don't reflect the amount of people who stay without the right to remain. With some studies estimating from 2017 you have any where from 594,000 and 745,000 illegal migrants in the UK. On current trends it would appear to be a problem now and possibly in the future.And Britain is rife with uncontrolled immigration?
Let's see the latest stats in June 2023 were that 1.2 million people entered the UK for that year (they seem to go from June to June for some reason), 508,000 left the uk, so total net migration was 672,000.
Now illegal migration was 52,530 with 40,386 coming via small boats. That's less than 10% of net migration and less than 5% of total migration. For the small boats 36,169 was asylum applicants which is completely different to a migrant (unless your the conservatives who can't tell the difference). So in terms of small boat migrants, we have number of migrants at less than 1% for both total and net migration.
I don't really see this as an uncontrolled influx.
Further, it is impossible to claim asylum outside the UK and it is impossible to for asylum seekers to get a visa to come to the UK. Therefore the UK actually encourages small boat crossings and supports these criminal gangs by making it extremely difficult for asylum seekers to arrive.
Applying for Asylum In UK From Outside
If you want to stay in the UK because you are unable to live safely in your country for fear of persecution, you may be eligible to claim asylum.
As for foreign powers looking to destabilise a country, ignoring the fact that our own government is doing a pretty good job of that on it's own, where are we going to get a huge sudden influx of refugees from? We're not near any active war zone and the UK takes very small numbers of refugees compared to other countries around the world. It's not really relevant to the UK.
I'm sure people will disagree, but for me the issue of immigration in the UK is nothing more than political scapegoating to try and hide the fact that the country has been run down by Tory incompetence. It's not a problem now and it's unlikely to be anytime in the near future.
I don't think any government could keep up with the demands. We don't build enough or have the number of skilled people in the professions needed - or treat them well. Going by how builders are treated, I'm not surprised we have a shortage for example. It needs to be a world wide discussion on how to handle this tbh, but we're stuck with narssistics in charge, so good luck with that.
