Russian rugby

[white bear]

Bears do not please us, so I suggest to switch clubs. Good memories, Suntory vs Enisei-STM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkw_3qV1KAI

 

[bagrata]

Georgia 46-0 Russia "A". I am dont known we play without Ostroushko, Artemiev, Simplikevich, Ostrikov, Rachkov, Korshunov, why not Burns flying from Melbourne (he is not play in Super-15 10 weeks)? Kingsley what your doing?
25000 at game in Tbilisi

Little Russia 35-32 Portugal
3500 at game in Odessa

Kingsley said that Russian team would play better if old players replace with new players, because they aren't demoralized by defeats against Georgia.

 

[white bear]

New players need to put a maximum of 1-2 people, but not half the team! He made it worse.

 

[bagrata]

New players need to put a maximum of 1-2 people, but not half the team! He made it worse.

It's not reason for your defeat.

 

[Crusader]

Have Seen Simplikevich here in Tbilisi, during Junior World Trophy last year. Just before the World Cup.
Raw talent. Very, very good player. Smart, fast and brave.

I was hoping to see him in Tbilisi again for ENC Georgia vs Russia. Though I don't think he would make big difference for final result, but anyway

 

[white bear]

Simplicevich and Ostrousko go to Seven Series in Honk Kong... For FRU rugby-7 most priority than Union
http://www.vva-podmoskovje.ru/photo/hong_kong/8/#img
I am in out. They are engaged in a game with children in Hong Kong. It seems I underestimated our sports officials, before they killed Russian hockey in favor of ice hockey. And now it seems the same thing done to Rugby Union... And that's all for the sake of a hypothetical medal once in 4 years! Sick people.

 

[Toko_11]

probably because its an Olympic sport now

 

[Croket66]

to Croket66
SuperRugby? Yes, but not 100%. In first game of Krasny Yar in NZ against local club Sherley 31-5 (4 half on 20 min), not plays 7 Bears / squard: Tsnobiladze(try)-Bazenov-Prishepenko(try), Khvorostyanoy-Kiselev, Kondakov-Goldstein-Flemming, Dorofeev-Dodd(3 rl), Gvozdovskiy-Rudenko(2 tries)-Kolomiytsev-Keller-Berezhnoy.
From banch go to feld: Shukaylov, Lugin, Sysoev, Timoshyuk(try), + from reserve: Maslov, Khudyakov, Sitnikov, Cheremnykh, Ryazantsev and new players:

№15 Glen Horton, ex-Highlinders, last season play in ITM Cup for Southland
http://www.rugbysouthland.co.nz/index.php?pageLoad=90&teamID=48&sm=
http://www.itsrugby.co.uk/player_1964.html
№9 Toby Morland, ex-Highlinders, Chiefs & Munster, last season play in Super-15 for Blues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Morland
http://www.theblues.co.nz/players/0-Toby-Morland.aspx
http://www.itsrugby.co.uk/player-2451.html

Great news for Krasny Yar!
I don't found any information about these signings
How do you know that?
Thanks!

 

[white bear]

to Croket66
From Krasny Yar guestbook(from man inside in club)

 

[Croket66]

Ok thanks Russian Bear :

So i've updated the french wiki article about Krasny Yar squad :










Effectif 2012

[TABLE="class: wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter, width: 1"]
<tbody>[TR]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Ivan Prishchepenko[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]26 mai 1982 (29 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]37 (20)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Oleg Shukaylov[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]10 mai 1974 (37 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]34 (10)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Maxim Sturza[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]26 août 1987 (24 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]1 (0)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Andrei Khmarin[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]24 mars 1989 (22 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Veaceslav Titica[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]14 février 1983 (29 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Moldavie[/TD]
[TD]?? (?)[/TD]
[TD] Slava-CSP[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Grigory Tsnobiladze[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]2 janvier 1983 (29 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]2 (0)[/TD]
[TD] RC Novokuznetsk[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Maxim Tymoschuk[/TD]
[TD]Pilier[/TD]
[TD]25 décembre 1987 (24 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nazir Gasanov[/TD]
[TD]Talonneur[/TD]
[TD]20 juin 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]3 (0)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sergey Bazhenov[/TD]
[TD]Talonneur[/TD]
[TD]4 novembre 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]4 (0)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Oleg Azarenka[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]3 mars 1977 (35 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]5 (0)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Maxim Kiselev[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]8 mai 1984 (27 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]1 (0)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Ivan Sysoev[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]30 juin 1988 (23 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Vadim Zaichko[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]30 octobre 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Alexander Khudyakov[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]29 septembre 1989 (22 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Andrey Lugin[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]9 février 1980 (32 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]9 (5)[/TD]
[TD] VVA Podmoskovye[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Andrei Hvorostyanoy[/TD]
[TD]Deuxième ligne[/TD]
[TD]23 mai 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD] CSP-Slava[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tom Fleming[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]31 mars 1986 (25 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Nouvelle-Zélande[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD] Ories RFC[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andrey Garbuzov[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]24 avril 1978 (33 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]40 (25)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Eugen Gol'chtejn[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]29 juillet 1989 (22 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glen Gregory[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]23 mai 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Nouvelle-Zélande[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD] Tasman Makos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andrey Kondakov[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]<a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1er_janvier_en_sport" title="1er janvier en sport" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><abbr class="abbr" title="Premier" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-bottom-style: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; cursor: inherit; color: inherit; ">1er​</abbr> janvier 1987 (25 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Oleg Prepelita[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]<a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1er_janvier_en_sport" title="1er janvier en sport" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><abbr class="abbr" title="Premier" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-bottom-style: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; cursor: inherit; color: inherit; ">1er​</abbr> janvier 1987 (25 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Moldavie[/TD]
[TD]?? (?)[/TD]
[TD] Spartak GM[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Boris Voronkov[/TD]
[TD]Troisième ligne[/TD]
[TD]29 septembre 1983 (28 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Basile Dorofeev[/TD]
[TD]Demi de mêlée[/TD]
[TD]27 septembre 1989 (22 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Toby Morland[/TD]
[TD]Demi de mêlée[/TD]
[TD]27 février 1983 (29 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Nouvelle-Zélande[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD] Auckland Blues[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Anton Ryabov[/TD]
[TD]Demi d'ouverture[/TD]
[TD]4 avril 1989 (22 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]5 (20)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]John Dodd[/TD]
[TD]Demi d'ouverture[/TD]
[TD]28 juillet 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Nouvelle-Zélande[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD] Southland Rugby[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Igor Galinovskiy[/TD]
[TD]3/4 centre[/TD]
[TD]8 janvier 1985 (27 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]19 (35)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Eugen Kolomiytsev[/TD]
[TD]3/4 centre[/TD]
[TD]16 mai 1990 (21 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Alex Makovetskiy[/TD]
[TD]3/4 centre[/TD]
[TD]27 mars 1983 (28 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]18 (15)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Vladimir Rudenko[/TD]
[TD]3/4 centre[/TD]
[TD]<a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1er_septembre_en_sport" title="1er septembre en sport" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><abbr class="abbr" title="Premier" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-bottom-style: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; cursor: inherit; color: inherit; ">1er​</abbr> septembre 1987 (24 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andreï Cheremnykh[/TD]
[TD]3/4 aile[/TD]
[TD]12 octobre 1990 (21 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Alexander Gvozdovsky[/TD]
[TD]3/4 aile[/TD]
[TD]7 janvier 198 (1814 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]28 (75)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Andrey Otrokov[/TD]
[TD]3/4 aile[/TD]
[TD]28 octobre 1985 (26 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]2 (5)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rushan Yagudin[/TD]
[TD]3/4 aile[/TD]
[TD]29 mars 1987 (24 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]1 (5)[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Glenn Horton[/TD]
[TD]Arrière[/TD]
[TD]12 avril 1983 (28 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Nouvelle-Zélande[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD] Highlanders[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #EFEFEF"]
[TD]Andrey Keller[/TD]
[TD]Arrière[/TD]
[TD]21 avril 1983 (28 ans)[/TD]
[TD] Russie[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]


Russian Bear if you see any error, tell me

 

[white bear]

Limit on legineras in season 2012
4 on field + 2 on bench
New Points with bonus system like on RWC

Superliga 1 Round calendar (13 May)
Enisey - Taganrog
Krasny Yar - Kazan
VVA - Fili
Novokuznetsk - Slava
Penza - Spartak

 

[white bear]

• From NZ
  "Krasny Yar" - North Canterbury - 21:10. The second test match for the collection in New Zealand "Krasny Yar" was playing against the team of North Canterbury. The composition of "quantum": Tsnobiladze - Bazhenov - Prishchepenko, Kiselev - Khvorostyanoy, Kondakov - Sysoev - Fleming, Dorofeev - Dodd, Gvozdovskiy - Rudenko - Kolomiytsev - Cheremnykh - Horton. To replace out: Morland, Shukaylov, Tymoschuk, Ryazantsev, Lugin, Berezhnoy, Maslov, Sitnikov, Khudyakov. Played at 3 times for 20 minutes. Unfortunately, rugby players do not gain the proper slot of conditions, so it was a lot of mistakes and confusion. As part of the home team in the tenth position of numbers played a former player, "Yar" Beydon Phillips. Already in the 5th minute of Eugene Kolomiytsev made ​​the interception, and Dodd make implementation - 7:0. In the 20th minute, replaced by Dorofeev go to field Morland and immediately made ​​an try. Dodd beat for the implementation of 14:0. In the second twenty-minute made ​​a beautiful pass Dodd. There was a discount on the Aleksandr Gvozdovskiy and Sasha landed the ball in the student's record-book of New Zealanders - 21:0. At the end of 40 minutes of the match, the error in the protection of "critical phenomena», North Canterbury attempt to answer by conducting an attack with his half of the field. 5.21 In the final quarter of the coaching staff of the white-green again gave young people a chance to prove themselves.Get a not very successful, although the efforts of the guys can not refuse. New Zealanders have reduced the backlog in the long run - 21:10. The match did not take part. Recovering from injuries Glen Gregory and Andrew Keller, the team of Russia Andrei Garbuzov, Maxim Sturza, Anton Ryabov, Andrei Otrokov and Nazir Hasanov, the Russian national team in rugby-7 - Igor Galinovsky, Rushan Yagudin.

 

[Croket66]

Here 2012 squads from russians teams

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enisey-STM#Effectif_2012
[URL="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasny_Yar#Effectif_2012"]http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasny_Yar#Effectif_2012

I [/URL]will add VVA soon

 

[white bear]

to Croket66
Krasny Yar 10-times champion (+1990 and 1991 seasons)

 

[Me 1]

[TABLE="class: wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter, width: 1"]<tbody>[TR][TD]Alexander Gvozdovsky[/TD][TD]3/4 aile[/TD][TD]7 janvier 198 (1814 ans)[/TD][TD] Russie[/TD][TD]28 (75)[/TD][TD]-[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]

[/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][/TR]</tbody>[/TABLE]Quite old isn't he?

 

[Croket66]

Lol, i think he is born in 1981

 

[RuggerUA]

Georgia 46-0 Russia "A". I am dont known we play without Ostroushko, Artemiev, Simplikevich, Ostrikov, Rachkov, Korshunov, why not Burns flying from Melbourne (he is not play in Super-15 10 weeks)? Kingsley what your doing?

I think it is disingenuous of you to call this Russian squad an "A" side just because 6 or 7 regular starters are missing. Northampton Saints play in Aviva Premiership while 8 of their best players are away with the national team, and they don't call themselves Northhampton "A". You should accept this defeat with dignity and look for ways to improve your team depth, not make excuses. Also, Adam Byrnes has been banned from playing in any IRB-sancioned rugby matches, not just Super Rugby, therefore he cannot play for the national team during this period.

Little Russia 35-32 Portugal
3500 at game in Odessa

In terms of fans attendance at home matches, perhaps it is the other Russia that should be called "Little"?

On a more serious note, I came to this forum for some good rugby discussions, not political disputes, so I will just say this once:
I was born in Ukraine, but I am not a "Ukrainian nationalist". I have family links to Russia and I spent a part of my childhood in Russia. So I am generally very pro-Russian and very supportive of the development of rugby in Russia, as well as Ukraine and other ex-USSR countries. But even the most pro-Russian Ukrainians don't like to hear the term "Little Russia". It sounds disrespectful and snobbish, similar to the way some snobbish people from Moscow call the rest of Russia "ZaMKADie". I read in your previous posts how you have a whole "scientific theory" about how this name is justified, but I am politely asking you to stop using this term on this forum if you want to have civilized conversation. Thank you, I am looking forward to discussing Russian rugby in the future.

 

[white bear]

to RuggerUA
Let's not argue Holland\Netherlands, America\United States or Little Russia\Ukraine. Call it what you want. For me the name of Ukraine(окраина) is offensive, but I can not impose that view. A "Little" - is not demeaning, but the designation was originally Russian lands. Following the example of Little Greece.

 

[zoLev]

http://www.sportsground.co.nz/ClubSite.asp?SiteID=12910&NoCache=101222151501ZANARRMQClubs are being asked to rally their supporters for the function at the Mandeville Sports Centre, which starts at 7pm following a North Canterbury Selection playing a touring team of semi-professionals Russians. " Semi-proff - a good term....

http://www.sportsground.co.nz/ClubSite.asp?SiteID=12910&NoCache=101222151501ZANARRMQ

 

[Prestwick]

While I not a mod per se I will take this moment to ask everybody to get along and let the rugby do the talking. I'm pleased that both RuggerUA and White Bear have kept things civil and pleasant

What is the situation about Russian Club rugby? I keep hearing from time to time that some in Russia want a competition similar to Russian soccer or Ice Hockey set up.