Shontane Haype - my battle with concussion

[goodNumber10]

good article currently doing twitter, from the NZ Herald:

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11264856

talks about L Irish and Montpellier.

 

[gaston le gaff]

At last he decided to come clean and admit his problems until that happens nobody can really help you, but very truthful article and shows just how dangerous it can be if ignored, knew him well while he was with us in Montpellier, the problem is that you think you are invincible but you are not, and until you admit it to yourself then help is always close by on hand (bit like alcoholics) The other problem of course is the transitional passage when you know you are going to retire normally there is some prep for it and maybe studies into a different career but if you stop suddenly very difficult to see where you are going next, especially if you have head problems and can't think straight. Hope evrything works out for Shontane, he could always be a DJ as he did one or two spots at the Bodega after matchs, at one point we even had a players soul group with some of the Islanders and Shontane sorted the music out for them Best of luck for the future.....

 

[Tony Manx]

That article should be pinned up on every changing room in every top rugby club....and should be enlarged by 100 times and put on the ceiling of Noves and all other trainers bedrooms so they can see it every time they open their eyes!

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Concussion and related brain injuries is the biggest challenge facing the sport. What Hape has gone through is horrifying.

Here's an article from today's Irish Independent on a club player who died from CTE:
http://brendanfanningrugby.wordpres...-fall-over-he-had-no-control-over-anything-2/

 

[Thingimubob]

Crazy, puts the Fritz incident into perspective, astonishing how much Hape went through. Can't believe Montpellier trying to overturn the medical decision too!

 

[McTallshort]

Massive respect for the bloke after reading that, hope hes ok for the future

 

[j'nuh]

I find it hard to blame the clubs. The issue here is the IRB imo. The only solution to avoiding this kind of issue in the future (as well as other kinds of injuries) is through limiting the number of games that a player can appear in over a season. Clubs will not voluntarily take this step, because they lose their competitive edge. It will cost a team points over a season, to give players the kind of rest that they need. This is particularly a problem for internationals, who have the added rigour of the international game, plus being (normally) the first name on the team sheet for clubs - and these are exactly the types of players that clubs do not want to rest, where they can help it. It is a race to the bottom, where the teams that try to take the moral high ground find themselves behind the teams that flog their players, because they go for extra games without their stars.

Therefore, action has to be enforced, and the IRB is the only body that can cover all bases.

 

[Peat]

Limiting the number of games a player can play will do nothing to alleviate players playing through injury. If anything it makes it worse, cos if you can't use X to fill in cos he's near his ration of minutes for the season, Y has to play.

My first step would have the IRB introduce independent doctors to sign off on concussed players being fit to return to play.

 

[Tony Manx]

I find it hard to blame the clubs. The issue here is the IRB imo. The only solution to avoiding this kind of issue in the future (as well as other kinds of injuries) is through limiting the number of games that a player can appear in over a season. Clubs will not voluntarily take this step, because they lose their competitive edge. It will cost a team points over a season, to give players the kind of rest that they need. This is particularly a problem for internationals, who have the added rigour of the international game, plus being (normally) the first name on the team sheet for clubs - and these are exactly the types of players that clubs do not want to rest, where they can help it. It is a race to the bottom, where the teams that try to take the moral high ground find themselves behind the teams that flog their players, because they go for extra games without their stars.

Therefore, action has to be enforced, and the IRB is the only body that can cover all bases.

Totally agree with Peat in everything he said and, I am afraid, your suggestion is very ill thought out as, for instance, you can not compare the ability of a prop forward to play the same number of games as a winger and in any case concussion is not linked to the number of games played!!

 

[ratsapprentice]

To be honest I was surprised at the Fritz incident because I was under the impression that independent doctors were already required to conduct the concussion assessment.

 

[MauriSca7]

Concussions are a my big battle in both in rugby (before) and american football (now) . Having create my own football league I can use rules that I want,I have independent doctors to support teams in case of concussion,but in case of doubt player is not allowed to return to play and he must go to hospital

 

[Amiga500]

I find it hard to blame the clubs.

I don't.


http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/816/621401/

15:10 in; apparently the doctor and physio involved in the Fritz incident have left the club.

Given what that obviously means - as Michael Corcoran correctly asks; how on earth is Guy Noves still in a job?!?

 

[MauriSca7]

Limit the number of games doesn't solve anything,a player I know in South Africa played just 3 matches but got concussed twice

 

[kesh]

There's a documentary film called Head Games (2012) that Corbisiero was promoting over here. A must watch for anyone who's played contact sport. Even seeing stars can permanently scar the brain. Why a lot of American Football practices had to be scaled down. Anyone receiving a head injury can't play on and can't play for a extended time afterwards. The percentage of ex-Pro's going off the rail after retirement was so bad it was even threatening the sports existence when their lawyers got involved and the evidence kept coming in.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Does anyone know the details of the NHL's policy? They seem to have their **** together in this regard.

 

[MauriSca7]

I'm not so sure that some players made the lawsuit in a honest way,a lot of former nfl players involved lawyers but then retired the lawsuit without a reason. I'm starting to have doubts on their actions

 

[munstermuffin]

On concussion. Anyone notice or comment on Leinster Doc in Rabo final sprinting on to get Jennings off when he was concussed even though no one noticed he was. That's how it should be done

 

[munstermuffin]

Does anyone know the details of the NHL's policy? They seem to have their **** together in this regard.

They're much tougher due to recent lawsuits brought against them for incidents in past but even their rehab for injuries is monitored tightly. Got to work with Edmonton Oilers late last year and their medical team leave us for dead as a whole.