Transfers 2016-2017

[ncurd]

Bannanahands reminds me of the kind of player Kvesic is. Excellent at club level not quite good enough for international except Banna's got a chance.....

 

[ratsapprentice]

How'd you figure that?

Every time he's been brought into Saxons or England A sides he's been outstanding, and outplayed players who have many, many caps - including direct competitors like Haskell and Wood.

 

[j'nuh]

I think you're being naive if you don't think that's partly down to his move. I'm fairly confident this would have been sorted before the season - when Kev was being coached by Hepher with the Saxons.

That and (again) not being selected by England is easily enough to demoralise a player.

I'm not too sure about that. Even if the decision to move had been made, he's still playing for an EPS spot, and the better he plays for Gloucester, the better a contract Exeter will offer. He had incentive to perform for Gloucester.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Not really.

He had played better than his competitors for the previous two seasons, and outperformed them in England teams they also played in.

He would have to be running on blind optimism to not be effected negatively by that.

 

[ALJ]

Gutted to see Kvesic go tbh but it's been pretty much set for months.

I do think the reason he lost his starting spot this year is because of the impending move - Although Rowan doesn't let us down, Kvesic (and the team) is better when he plays.

He's not the quickest but reads the game pretty well imho.
When he first joined Gloucester he got physically dominated by opposition players - but he was only 21 and, while he doesn't look like one who will ever be physically dominant, he doesn't get pushed around any more.

Is he a world class openside? Probably not but I would say he's up there with England's other options right now and maybe this move will be good for him (esp. since we'll struggle to make the Champions Cup again this year).

 

[Every Time Ref]

How'd you figure that?

Every time he's been brought into Saxons or England A sides he's been outstanding, and outplayed players who have many, many caps - including direct competitors like Haskell and Wood.

I'm with rats. Have never really understood why he wasn't given a chance.

Don't see it happening now though, if it wasn't last year it's never.

 

[racingmetro92]

New thread for 2017-2018 transfers : http://www.therugbyforum.com/threads/38558-2017-2018-transfers

 

[Maverick1987]

It's pretty crazy to see so many people ****ting all over him in social media.
People seem to think not being an international player = being a **** player.
Seen him branded as lazy and with no work ethic on the pitch, as well, which is just mental.

To be fair though I've just a "discussion" with a lovely Irish lad who labelled Billy Vunipola a fat, one trick pony !

Social media rugby discussions are the gift that keeps on giving

 

[Jrex]

C Clark to Saracens

C Clark to Saracens

Scumbag

 

[saintmaster]

Not sure how reliable the rumour is but saints have been linked with Cruden again

 

[TheSaffycen]

I hope to God we don't get Clark

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Maxime Mermoz to Tigers with immediate affect now confirmed.

 

[munstermuffin]

Maxime Mermoz to Tigers with immediate affect now confirmed.

If its Mermoz of old that can be a serious season turning signing

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

If its Mermoz of old that can be a serious season turning signing

Fingers crossed but will prob be injured. His style of rugby shouldn't be that affected by his age really.

Toulon getting rid of its French players...

 

[munstermuffin]

Fingers crossed but will prob be injured. His style of rugby shouldn't be that affected by his age really.

Toulon getting rid of its French players...

Yea that's what I mean. If ye can get him a string of games I think he'd suit ye and be a star signing. He has plenty of rugby left in him

 

[profitius]

Arno Botha and John Cooney to Ulster next season confirmed.

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Alesana Tuilagi ---> Toulon.

What is Toulon on atm?? Totally uninspiring signing. He wasn't the best winger (fourth maybe?) at Falcons, let alone a team like Toulon.

 

[Every Time Ref]

Alesana Tuilagi ---> Toulon.

What is Toulon on atm?? Totally uninspiring signing. He wasn't the best winger (fourth maybe?) at Falcons, let alone a team like Toulon.

He's got a lot of relatives, could that be the game they're playing?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Jobs for the boys from Cockers, surely?
Alesana looks way off the pace for top flight rugby these days, there must've been a lot of players knocking around that could have come in and done a better job for less money.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Jobs for the boys from Cockers, surely?
Alesana looks way off the pace for top flight rugby these days, there must've been a lot of players knocking around that could have come in and done a better job for less money.

Nah if Cockers really wanted him he would of brought him back to Tigers (our wingers have had injury issues of late) this is the type of signing Toulon just make.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Tigers have standards though
Toulon will sign anyone if they've got a big name (hence bringing Fat Stevens out of retirement the other season).

 

[Groundhog]

Toulon going down the Chinese Super League school of signings.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Tigers have standards though
Toulon will sign anyone if they've got a big name (hence bringing Fat Stevens out of retirement the other season).

Hence why I don't think this is a job for the lads by Cockers.

- - - Updated - - -

Toulon going down the Chinese Super League school of signings.

Ryan lamb to get a 500k wage?

 

[ratsapprentice]

Toulon have always done this IMO, they just got lucky in that Wilkinson/Hayman/Masoe et al held the team together really well.

I've never bought into the idea that it was particularly skilful management or recruitment.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Confirmed
Ethan Waller ---> Worcester
Calum Clark ----> Saracens


Think Saints will regret losing Ethan, I rate him from the limited time I have seen him, and he is the type of player who would of stayed if given some more game time.

Clark shouldn't be playing pro rugby.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Confirmed
Ethan Waller ---> Worcester
Calum Clark ----> Saracens


Think Saints will regret losing Ethan, I rate him from the limited time I have seen him, and he is the type of player who would of stayed if given some more game time.

Clark shouldn't be playing pro rugby.

Really happy Clark is going and really gutted Ethan is going.

What's the point in developing players, then not giving them game time and then letting them go! FFS

 

[Geordie]

Ignoring the "other moral" aspects around Clark...

His actual game style will fit Saracens perfectly. A big, aggressive mobile flanker, lineout option. Only 27...he could be a very shrewd signing for them!

 

[Quel Carreleur]

clark shouldn't be playing rugby.

ftfy

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Really happy Clark is going and really gutted Ethan is going.

What's the point in developing players, then not giving them game time and then letting them go! FFS

Is a bit a head scratcher that
As impressive as his brothers 50 million consecutive games record is, can't help but feel he maybe should have missed a couple for Ethan

 

[duncanb]

Ethan's problems have been around the park work for 80 mins not his scrum work.
But certainly a good 2ND choice.
Clark sick note penalty machine and that's being kind.
Start of clear out which should have started 18 months ago.
Coach or 2 next ?