Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. He'll knock over all the pieces, **** on the board and still strut around like he won the game.
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Astingtir must love Sean Hannity.
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Nope more of a Abby Martin man myself (probably not so much since she left breaking the set). Im sure alot of the cucks on here would love Bill O riley though.
What we need is more guns.....thought no body with a brain in their head
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And without a gun, he wouldn't have been able to take the life of the man.
The solution is to put cameras on all police.
And no, at first it is unlikely to have a major impact to the ongoing day-by-day situation. But over time, when more and more guns are taken out of circulation, when new guns are not being made to replace them, then we will see an affect.
Police and citizens need to work on a level of trust, and it's impossible to trust a police force that is trying to emulate the military.
And Obama presumably whispered in the ears of the police, telling them to kill the 569 people (this year, so far) they have? The 1,146 the year before? Those people who were gunned down by police for e.g. running away or pulling a wallet out of their pocket? An issue that affects black people more than any other race? What is your solution to stop the encroaching militarisation of police, and the evident disregard for civilian lives they are showing?
To tar an entire movement with the actions of the minority is playing the fool. No less shameful than blaming every police officer for the few that actually kill civilians.
Guns are a massive problem. To make the case, they kill where other attempts at taking a life would fail. Against other weapons, people can run away, put a barrier between themselves and the assailant, use an improvised weapon to protect themselves etc. Guns are easy to use, meaning literally any ****er could gun down a group of people without much effort. Guns also put the advantage on the side of those who draw first - always the assailant. Owning a gun doesn't help anyone - you'll be dead before you get to use it, and if you do try to use it, you'll be dead anyway. It is difficult to have a "mass knifing" or a "mass strangulation" - no weapon other than guns can force an entire group of people to be taken hostage. Against a knife, the assailant may kill one or two people trying to escape, but not tens of people that a gun could mow down. It's absolutely absurd to think that other weapons can displace guns in the same way. Guns are unique in how easy and fast they can be used to take lives; it's why the military have stopped using swords, spears and bows.
And the hundreds of other police officers?
And without a gun, he wouldn't have been able to take the life of the man.
The solution is to put cameras on all police.
It is a wonder you haven't been banned.
If it reduces deaths by a half or a quarter, then that's a win.
And no, at first it is unlikely to have a major impact to the ongoing day-by-day situation. But over time, when more and more guns are taken out of circulation, when new guns are not being made to replace them, then we will see an affect.
Given that the police have become increasingly militarised in the last 15-20 years, and the problems have gotten worse since then, then yes, I believe you are talking BS. Perhaps completely disarming police would be the wrong strategy for the current state of America, but using FBI raids in place of standard police visits, using military vehicles and assault rifles in place of the standard pistol - which are newer trends - needs to stop.
Police and citizens need to work on a level of trust, and it's impossible to trust a police force that is trying to emulate the military.
Yes, they are after a gun grab, because it is the right thing to do.
And with legislation, he can take them and many more away.
Obviously you have never worked. When you work, there's something called holiday pay that you can get, which allows you to not go into work on one day and still get paid. There are also these things called evenings, where after working through the day, you can spend a few hours doing whatever you want. Oh also, there's the not unheard-of concept of the weekend, a two day period in which you do not have to attend work, and can feel free to spend it protesting, or eating too much, or watching sport or whatever.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-brexit-victory-and-looks-to-challenges-ahead
UKIP doing their part to heal the divide of the country post-Brexit. :lol:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208
Couldn't cope with 'the abuse' thank God she's dropping out if that's the case because this weekend was nothing compared to what can happen as PM.
Couldn't cope with 'the abuse' thank God she's dropping out if that's the case because this weekend was nothing compared to what can happen as PM.
Yep it really highlights how experiance at the higher levels is so important in terms of handling stuff like this.
Does that mean May has now won by default?
So we'll have a Prime Minister that wasn't elected and wasn't even voted in by their own party.
So we'll have a Prime Minister that wasn't elected and wasn't even voted in by their own party.
There's a concept of public vetting. Any high ranking politician will have had years of it being under scrutiny and being challenged. They also know not to suggest there's something wrong with not having children, I know people who choose to not have children, haven't had children due to huge difficulty, had children but had difficulty, still trying but having difficulty (I'm personally in that group) all of whom found the remarks offensive and deeply insensitive.
May's views are well known and mud flinging at her is hard as she's already stood up to it. Leadsome really did show a lack of experience in a) being guarded in what she says and b) having previous comment she made bite her in the ass. As PM the majority of the country does not usually vote for you your perpetually in a hostile atmosphere far more than as a junior minister.
Say what you like about May she's been home secretary for 6 years and not been moved despite it being considered a poisoned chalice job (Jack Straw did the best out of Labor reign of power with 4 years under his belt). It shows she has the ability to persevere through most storms a PM might have to go through.
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Yup Gordon Brown all over again GE sounding like it's back on the cards especially with Labor in disarray.
Technically you dont vote for the person in the GE you vote for the party, and May would of won the party leadership vote anyway.
similar to Brown I don't see an general election happening anytime soon.
It really ought to be - and TBH I believe that any change in the leadership of the party-in-power should trigger a GE automatically. As it should have when Brown took over, and as it should have done when Major took over. Basically, a new leadership => a new direction for the party => party mandate has been voided.
Equally, it probably shouldn't be a snap GE like Major called (2 months notice IIRC) but a longer campaign to let everyone sort themselves out.
Very technically.
I think if we were to finally have a constitution, I would move that any change of prime minister must be followed by a General Election.
I know that 'technicality' it doesn't stop calls when someone isn't elected though.
One of Brown's biggest mistakes was not calling for a snap election early into his Premiership. It's widely regarded he'd have kept Labour majority had he did rather than getting cold feet and loosing like he did.
With Labour in disarray May can probably keep her majority (maybe even widen it) then have a clear Brexit mandate with her in charge.
It's a risk though, what if UKIP gain more seats (I think this unlikely if the Tories are campaigning on Brexit a lot of UKIP voters from last time may flock back). How many seats will the Lib-Dems win back from them on a pro-EU platform (it's likely they'll win back some seats).
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God no, don't ask the people to vote. Look at the carnage from the last time we had ballot papers to fill in.....
Snap GE and Corbyn swept to power on a second referendum "let's get it right this time" ticket. Anything's possible now!!
God no, don't ask the people to vote. Look at the carnage from the last time we had ballot papers to fill in.....
Snap GE and Corbyn swept to power on a second referendum "let's get it right this time" ticket. Anything's possible now!!
Corbyn's already said he'd invoke Article 50.
I'll make this abundantly clear, I don't want to leave the EU, I don't like a lot of Tory policies, I would probably prefer Corbyn in charge to May. I'd prefer a hung parliament 99% of time as I believe in compromise over direct power.God no, don't ask the people to vote. Look at the carnage from the last time we had ballot papers to fill in.....
Snap GE and Corbyn swept to power on a second referendum "let's get it right this time" ticket. Anything's possible now!!
Any chance to change direction this country is going in currently I will take.
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I still think he voted to leave....still he may not even be able to get on the leadership ballot yet.
Anyway it sounds like article 50 is in the power of parliment in the event of GE how many Labour MP's will follow Corbyn on that vote? Can the Tories, Labour & UKIP get enough seats turn the tide?
Currently MP's feel they are bound by the referendum they won't feel that way after a GE.
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Oops, smiley omission! I was just saying that Westminster has descended into such chaos that nothing would surprise me now.
All this would be highly entertaining if it was happening in France or Germany or somewhere. Its not and I'm worried.
Popular vote at the last GE.
1. Con. Incoming leader / PM without a mandate
2. Lab. Tearing itself apart over lame duck leader
3. UKIP. Looking for a new leader
4. Lib Dems. Fallen off a cliff face with 8 whole seats. Do they still exist? Might have a leader, might not. Doesn't really matter.
5. SNP. Got a leader and a very good one at that. Will be bringing another referendum to ballot boxes north of Hadrian's Wall before Murray wins his 4th Wimbledon.
6. Green. Oooh, looking for a new leader.
Couldn't make it up.
Now that would be interesting esp the northern Labour MP's.
Yeah like Gordon Brown
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