Croatia at it again

Discussion in 'All Other Sports' started by The TRUTH, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    from SI.com

    Croatia eyeing another rising Aussie

    ZAGREB, Croatia (AP) -- Croatia's soccer federation has its eye on another Australian-born player of Croatian descent, news reports said Wednesday.

    Croatian soccer chief Vlatko Markovic is interested in 17-year-old Mathew Spiranovic for the World Cup-bound Croatian national squad, reported leading sports daily Sportske Novosti.

    The Croatian soccer federation declined to comment.

    Spiranovic, who was recently accepted into Australian Institute of Sport development program, is described as a robust striker with exceptional dexterity on and off the ball.

    The interest in Spiranovic is expected to rekindle tensions between Croatia and Australia, who have been drawn together in Group F of this year's World Cup in Germany. Also in the group are Japan and five-time champion Brazil.

    Croatia and Australia have already clashed over loyalties.

    The Croatian team presently has three players -- Joey Didulica, Anthony Seric and Joe Simunic -- who opted to represent the country of their origin rather than the country of their birth.

    Australia, a multicultural haven for millions of immigrants, made it to the World Cup after a 32-year hiatus and is eager to stem the flow of its homegrown talent offshore.

    Some critics in Australia have called on sports authorities to prohibit Australian-raised athletes from representing other countries or force them to return funds invested in their development.



    What annoys me most about this is Australian tax payers(like me) pay for these kids to get world class training at the AIS only for them to be taken by a country were there nanna or someone used to live, **** ..... if every aussie kid with ancestors from another country was poached we wouldn't have any athletes left.
     
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  3. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    Well they could always cap him themselves and prevent the Croats from poaching him.

    I agree though that they should have to pay back the Australian Institute if he does play for Croatia, shouldn't prove much of an obstacle to him if he makes it to the top level.
     
  4. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    He's only 17 he doesn't deserve a cap , Australia has over 100 players in europe and some good players at home that are fighting for a spot in the World Cup squad it would be unfair on them to cap this kid.

    Croatia are gonna offer him a spot in there WC squad and i dont think he's even played a professional game yet, cant they devolope there own players.
     
  5. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    Heres a few guys that probably deserve a spot more than that kid (and doesnt include A league players) [​IMG]

    Belgium
    LAYBUTT, Stephen Defender KAA Gent
    SANTALAB, Brendan Belgium Sint Truiden

    Croatia

    BOSNAR, Eddy Defender Dinamo Zagreb

    Cyprus

    FOTI, Adam Striker A.E. Paphos
    MOUSTAKAS, Perry Apollon Limassol FC
    OKON, Paul Midfielder APOEL Nicosia

    Denmark

    CANSDELL-SHERRIFF, Shane Defender AGF Aarhus
    FORMAN, ALISON Midfielder Fortuna Hjorring

    England

    BOJIC, Predrag Defender Northampton Town
    BRADY, Jon Midfielder Hereford
    BURNS, Jacob Midfielder Barnsley
    CAHILL, Tim Midfield Everton
    CISAK, Alex Goalkeeper Leicester City
    COYNE, Chris Defender Luton Town
    DAVIES, Clint Goalkeeper Woking
    DOWNES, Aaron Defender Chesterfield
    DOYLE, Hayden Midfielder Stoke City
    EDDS, Gareth Defender Milton Keynes
    ELRICH, Ahmad Midfielder Fulham
    EMERTON, Brett Right Midfielder Blackburn Rovers
    FEDERICI, Adam Goalkeeper Reading
    FILAN, John Goalkeeper Wigan Athletic
    GARCIA, Richard Striker Colchester United
    GRIFFITHS, Adam Defender Watford
    GRIFFITHS, Rostyn Midfielder Blackburn Rovers
    GUYETT, Scott Defender Yeovil Town
    HENDERSON, Paul Goalkeeper Leicester City
    HERD, Chris Aston Villa
    HUKE, Shane Midfielder Peterborough
    JAMIESON, Scott Midfielder Bolton Wanderers
    JONES, Brad Goalkeeper Middlesbrough
    KEWELL, Harry Midfielder/Striker Liverpool
    KISNORBO, Patrick Defender Leicester City
    LAZARIDIS, Stan Left Midfielder Birmingham City
    LOWRY, Shane Aston Villa
    MCCLENAHAN, Trent Defender Milton Keynes
    MOORE, Craig Defender Newcastle United
    NEILL, Lucas Defender Blackburn Rovers
    O'HARE, Chris Halifax Town
    POGLIACOMI, Les Goalkeeper Blackpool
    POPOVIC, Tony Defender Crystal Palace
    PORTER, Joel Midfielder Hartlepool United
    REID, Paul Midfielder Brighton & Hove Albion
    RIZZO, Nick Midfielder Milton Keynes
    SCARSELLA, David Goalkeeper Barnsley
    SCHWARZER, Mark Goalkeeper Middlesbrough
    SHEPHERD, Andrew Cheltenham
    SKOKO, Josip Midfielder Wigan Athletic
    STAVROULAKIS, Nick Midfielder Peterborough
    TALIA, Frank Goalkeeper Wycombe Wanderers
    TIATTO, Danny Left Midfielder Leicester City
    TROISI, James Striker Newcastle United
    VIDUKA, Mark Striker Middlesbrough
    WESOLOWSKI, James Midfielder Leicester City
    WILKSHIRE, Luke Midfielder Bristol City

    Germany

    AGOSTINO, Paul Striker 1860 Munich
    BULJAN, Peter Striker FC Saarbrucken
    GAITATZIS, Charilaos Midfield Arminia Bielefeld
    JURIC, Frank Goalkeeper Hannover 96
    KENNEDY, Joshua Striker Dynamo Dresden
    TEINERT, Christophe Striker SpVgg Unterhaching
    VASS, Morton Midfielder Holstein Kiel

    Greece

    PELLEGRINO, Adriano Midfielder Panachaiki
    TOHOUROGLOU, Kyriakos Goalkeeper PAOK Salonika
    WESTERVELT, Aaron Midfielder Panachaiki
    ZORBAS, Peter Midfielder Panachaiki

    Italy

    BRESCIANO, Marco Midfielder Parma
    GIRALDI, Dez Striker Cuoio Pelli Cappiano
    GRELLA, Vince Midfielder Parma
    KALAC, Zeljko Goalkeeper AC Milan
    KARLOVIC, Mario Midfielder AS Cittadella
    VALERI, Carl Midfielder Grosseto
    VANSTRATTAN, Jess Goalkeeper Verona

    Macedonia

    ARSOVSKI, Igor Midfielder Sile

    Malta

    TAGLIAFERRO, Shane Striker Msida St. Joseph
    XUEREB, Michael Goalkeeper Hibernians FC

    Netherlands

    COE, Nathan Goalkeeper PSV Eindhoven
    CULINA, Jason Midfielder PSV Eindhoven
    HOLMAN, Brett Striker Excelsior
    VIDMAR, Tony Defender NAC Breda
    WILSON, Lindsay Defender PSV Eindhoven
    ZOIS, Peter Goalkeeper Willem II

    Norway

    MACALLISTER, Dylan Striker SK Brann
    RADULOVIC, Sasa Striker Lillestrom
    STEFANUTTO, Shane Defender Lillestrom
    WEHRMAN, Kasey Midfielder Lillestrom

    Republic of Ireland

    O'CONNOR, Chris Goalkeeper Bray Wanderers

    Romania

    CLITNOVICI, Daniel Universitatae Craiova
    GRIFFITHS, Ryan Midfielder FC National Bucuresti
    MCKAIN, Jon Defender FCU Politehnica Timisoara
    MITCHELL, Josh Defender Universitatae Craiova
    SHORE, Samuel Jordan Defender FC National Bucuresti
    SRHOJ, Wayne Midfielder FC National Bucuresti
    THWAITE, Michael Defender FC National Bucuresti

    Scotland

    INVINCIBILE, Danny Midfielder Kilmarnock
    LOVELL, Stuart Midfielder Queen of the South
    MAISANO, John Midfielder Ayr United
    MCBREEN, Daniel Striker Falkirk
    MCDONALD, Scott Striker Motherwell
    SCOTT, Craig Striker Cowdenbeath
    TUNBRIDGE, Scott Striker Hamilton Academical
    WARDLE, Matthew Livingstone

    Spain

    ALOISI, John Striker Alaves
    BELLO-AMIGO, Jose Goalkeeper Poli Ejido

    Sweden

    COVIC, Ante Goalkeeper Hammarby IF
    HEWS, Chay Midfielder Vastra Frolunda

    Switzerland

    CHIPPERFIELD, Scott Midfielder FC Basel
    GRIFFITHS, Joel Striker Neuchatel Xamax
    MILICEVIC, Ljubo Defender FC Thun
    STERJOVSKI, Mile Midfielder/Striker FC Basel

    Turkey

    BASER, Tansel Defender MKE Kirikkalespor
    PETKOVIC, Michael Goalkeeper Sivasspor
     
  6. Vuky

    Vuky Guest

    Now wait a second. I am Serbian and I am not defending Croats but you people forget how young your country is. Serbian and Croatian national identity goes back over 1000 years. Now if after 1000 years of one culture your ancestors move to place called Australia because they lost war back home, and they become Australians the very next generation. Nope it does not work that way.

    And just look at those last names in your national team. Popovic, Skoko, Viduka, Milicevic, Kolac, Covic. Well all I can say if Croatia was not nazi during a WWII you people would not have world cup squad. not in 300 years.
     
  7. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    To be honest I've no problem with first generation kids playing for their parents country of origin, but where I would draw the line is with the likes of Tony Cascarino digging up some granny in the west of Ireland just to play international football, it's easy for country's to sit and judge other countries for taking advantage of the parentage rule but there genuinely are young kids who'd prefer to play for their parents country.

    What I've said above bears no relation to this case involving this kid as I don't know enough about his situation.

    He can't be that good though if all those players deserve caps ahead of him but having looked at the list and seen the Bray Wanderers keeper there it does make me rethink.
     
  8. I support Ayr United and we have John Maisano who plays for us. He's a heavy smoker and has only a couple of appearances to his name this tear for us so I'd miss him.

    I don't agree with the rules about nationallity. Scotland used to have loads of english born and speaking (accent wise) players which I resented a great deal. Your country of birth is your nationallity - not the country that your Gran's brother's next door neighbour's son's cousin belonged to (exageration but I'm making a point)
     
  9. BigTen

    BigTen Guest

    What is this - Australians complaining about another country poaching their players!??? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING!
     
  10. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    Again though this is the extreme example but I don't think you can deny someone wanting to represent the country of their parents, family loyalty can be quite strong in some cases.
     
  11. ak47

    ak47 Guest

    nah mate its just natural

    we produce the best, so its just the norm

    we let Vieri go to Italy aswell

    we'll claim some kiwis in return

    Russel Crowe
    Fin brothers
    Tonie Carrol [​IMG]
    Brad Thorn [​IMG]

    its al in the ANZAC spirit BigTen.........in return u can have.........oh crap, apart from the #9 srum half from Gunnedah, nobody wants to leave this place [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  12. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    Vieri was born in Italy
     
  13. BigTen

    BigTen Guest

    ak47 - I am not so much talking about Australian claiming or taking NZ'ers but rather more all of the international talent that they poach especially from East Europe.

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    So you lose a couple of footballers - big deal! Stop crying about it.
     
  14. ak47

    ak47 Guest

    i aint crying

    this nation isnt crying.........nobody cares.........

    this article is from SI.com...........sports illustrated is USA

    i havent heard a beep from anyone about these defecting croats in australia....i'd be surprised if anyone knew about this guy except the croat contingent.

    cryng is an overstatement....... this happens all the time, as we are more exposed to this conduct, than anyone coz we harbour so many people with foriegn background.......per capita would be the most in the WORLD

    in the meantime Andrew Merthens will apply for citizenship of his country of birth...ironic i know
     
  15. BigTen

    BigTen Guest

    Sorry ak47 - I wasn't talking to you when I said stop crying.

    But trust me there is media in Australia that is having a bit of a cry about those nasty Croats that are stealing fair-dinkum Aussie boys.
     
  16. ak47

    ak47 Guest

    agreed

    The media love to sell a story

    cant wait for the world cup...........will finally give a true indication if the aussies are up the task.

    IMO we are, but that is bias...........instinct towards anything canary yellow [​IMG]

    I just wish we could claim Goran Ivanisevic.........a true legend, the face of croatia, and his sister is here for the aussie open...i hope character runs in the family
     
  17. kaftka

    kaftka Guest

    [​IMG] NO! It's gol- [​IMG]

    Uh, yeah....Canary yellow...Mhm..



    ...And don't you forget it! [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  18. ak47

    ak47 Guest

    yes mate u better believe it

    We are undefeated in the Tour De France!!!!!!! [​IMG]
     
  19. Vuky

    Vuky Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
    "Your country of birth is your nationallity". WOW what have you been smoking? Tell this to somebody in Europe they will laugh at you.

    anyhow, I will be cheering Aussies along Serbia this world cup. just don't get all cought up into soccer hype, you will forget to play rugby. [​IMG]

    or maybe you already didt?
     
  20. ak47

    ak47 Guest

    nah mate

    we'll be playing rugby in this life and the afterlife

    it is the game they play in heaven afterall
     
  21. kaftka

    kaftka Guest

    Mainly because all the refs have gone to hell.
     
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