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Being talked about already in the other Lions thread.
He does have a point however. There's more logic to a PI test than going to Hong Kong before. Just shows the money side of the Lions (as some of the New Zealander's point out with the selection of test venues).
He does have a point however. There's more logic to a PI test than going to Hong Kong before. Just shows the money side of the Lions (as some of the New Zealander's point out with the selection of test venues).
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He quite often has a point, but isn't going to win many people over with his over the top rants. You would expect someone with a law degree to be able to argue much more persuasively.
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Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with what he's said. Samoa replacing the third string squad of a New Zealand club on the tour isn't exactly a big ask. It would bring a fair amount of money into the Samoan game too.
I don't think it's fair to say that. Samoa's game is completely underfunded, and there's no way of getting around that until Samoa is taken seriously in the rugby schedule. I think it's a good thing for him to be making noise about.
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Why can't he do it through proper channels. Not throwing a hissy on twitter.
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The major point against it though is that NZRFU pay the Lions to tour, they have significant costs and would the cost of hosting the Lions be met by Samoa?
The Barbarians game was underwritten by HSBC as they were the main tour sponsors, hence it wasn't a big deal they played in a half empty stadium.
So while i don't hve an issue with what he's saying in regards to the ethos of the game financially it's probably not a viable option.
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IIRC, the Hong Kong game was paid for by HSBC as their main sponsors, not the Lions.
The test venues in NZ are assigned by the NZRF, the Lions do not get any of the ticket or gate money, IIRC they get a set fee regardless of ticket sales etc... the host unions make absolutely millions out of the tour.
Japan makes more sense than all IMO.
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He's a mouthy twit who talks some crap at times, but I agree with the sentiment that more home games for the Pacific should happen. I also think it should be a different side who goes there each year. It wouldn't be fair to just expect certain teams like New Zealand (despite their geographical convenience) to keep going there when they don't get a penny out of it. The Maori All Blacks, a domestic side? Sure. But they want the top sides so I think it should rotate.
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Should be more pressure on the individual NH unions to give other European unions meaningful tests - the Lions playing Samoa? Less important IMO.
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He's now calling England 'slave masters' and people 'white supremacists'.
Worse are the people who indulge him or even agree with him on things like Twitter.
The fact is he isn't relevant anymore he is trying to become the PI rugby ambassador he should focus more on pressuring the governing bodies to sort out there own house.
Trouble is he thinks the AB playing in Samoa was all down to him.
The fact is he isn't relevant anymore he is trying to become the PI rugby ambassador he should focus more on pressuring the governing bodies to sort out there own house.
Trouble is he thinks the AB playing in Samoa was all down to him.
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So all the financial side of the Lions. Which I totally get, it's a business that needs to run since the game turned pro. However having a game against a Pacific Islands nation during the tour in NZ would be in the spirit of a touring Lions side in my opinion. No one is asking for a three test series in a different country! If they can sell out to HSBC's whims they could do that.
Also I'm sure most would agree that international rugby evolves slowly. From the growth of the Tri Nations to Rugby Championship and the European Cup etc. Going through the official channels is slow and largely ineffective (so it would seem to me, admittedly no expert). Getting public support might apply more pressure. Fuimaono-Sapulo isn't doing that in a great way though. Needs to cause a fuss in a more productive, less abrasive manner.
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Does this guy ever give it a rest, It's a 'Lions tour to New Zealand' not a tour to the 'Pacific isles'.
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NZRFU is unlikely to be ok with the Lions playing any PI national/invitational team over one of their own clubs/franchises, and flying out midweek to one of Samoa, Fiji or Tonga would be a nightmare.
The only time they could realistically play them is before they get to NZ - given that the proposed game in the USA on the way over was abandoned, they clearly don't think they can play a game before they get to NZ.
The only time they could realistically play them is before they get to NZ - given that the proposed game in the USA on the way over was abandoned, they clearly don't think they can play a game before they get to NZ.
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Why couldn't they play it in NZ before the tour? Increased revenue for them as well as providing for any Pacific Islanders who live there. Gives the Lions a decent side straight off the bat to measure themselves against. Wins all around?
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Why would they have two foreign teams playing when they could have one of their own involved?
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This.
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Have you seen his non rugby stuff?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/eminaaM">@EminaaM</a> haha brilliant! Given the mass murder Israel are committing in Palestine I can see why Hitler held some beliefs.</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/60762498286108673">April 20, 2011</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They must not study World War Two in Israel. They've become the new nazis.</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/492586769750052864">July 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Basically all Lance Armstrong did was steal from the corporate and give it to families suffering with Cancer. Robin Hood on a bike.</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/260356315921129473">October 22, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Conspiracy. Corporate pharmaceutical companies behind the ban because Livestrong are close to finding a cure for cancer. I'll go with that</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/260354786833096704">October 22, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Edmund Hillary was NOT the first person to climb Everest. Sherpas have lived on the Himalayas for generations. White supremacy is so funny.</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/609971758934790144">June 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/taygogo">@taygogo</a> to perpetuate white supremacy. Same reason why we're not taught Pacific history at school. Capitalism needs an underclass. Thats us</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/494268006973706240">July 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looking at this pic you'd think <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rugby?src=hash">#rugby</a> was only played by white men. 2014 for god's sake. <a href="http://t.co/epL4ihrnjj">pic.twitter.com/epL4ihrnjj</a></p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/522760485096026113">October 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">@Divz_73 All eyegougers are white! No Polynesian has ever been cited for that. Do we prejudice them? No.</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/403293648885784576">November 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Black orcs. Black Crows. Black Towers. Black Magic. Black = Evil. All the good guys. White. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hobbit?src=hash">#Hobbit</a></p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/273661112304664576">November 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They could have modernised Lord of the Rings a bit. The only black people in it are Orcs. Ugly bad guys.</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/255238586339844097">October 8, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watching the Hobbit reaffirms it. They must have had apartheid in Middle-earth. Where the brown folks at?!</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/422242036905816064">January 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">dumbass uncle toms “<a href="https://twitter.com/nzherald">@nzherald</a>: Israel Dagg, Jonah Lomu referred to police for election tweets <a href="http://t.co/hJyuiQdmvA">http://t.co/hJyuiQdmvA</a> <a href="http://t.co/2FBiW8QhBm">pic.twitter.com/2FBiW8QhBm</a>â€</p>— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eliota_Sapolu/status/529560824549871617">November 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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