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Bullitt
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After the 2011 fiasco, another glorious victory for rugbys "elite".
What do Japan have to do?
What do Japan have to do?
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DuncTheDoodle
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Japan have 2019, so I guess it isn't just for th big nations.
Should be good, though. I'll have to make room to see some games at some point in the cup.
Should be good, though. I'll have to make room to see some games at some point in the cup.
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Bullitt
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Maybe so, but it's still a chuffing disgrace that Japan have to wait that long when they should have been hosting the next tournament anyway.
A real poke in the eye for expanding the game IMO.
A real poke in the eye for expanding the game IMO.
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mohamed_ali12
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2010-2019 should be very special for British sport, im very excited about it to be honest. Can't wait for 2015 - should be one of the best world cups yet. One question, why are they using Kingsholm as one of the proposed grounds? 18000 seats isn't exactly huge.
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fillypunky
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I'm really angry because the IRB didn't choose italian bid. Italy is a wonderful nations, have a lot of turistic place. rugby is everyday more popular. The IRB said that tugby have to gain more popularity, so why it choose england, when this sport is already popular. England have already hosted the 1991 edition.
The country choosen by the IRB are always the same, in this way rugby won't be never a sport popular in the all world!
Australia-New Zeland 1987
England 1991
South Africa 1995
Wales 1999
Australia 2003
France 2007
New Zeland 2011
England 2015
Japan 2019
The country choosen by the IRB are always the same, in this way rugby won't be never a sport popular in the all world!
Australia-New Zeland 1987
England 1991
South Africa 1995
Wales 1999
Australia 2003
France 2007
New Zeland 2011
England 2015
Japan 2019
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mohamed_ali12
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fillypunky @ Jul 28 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
The 2011 world cup in New Zealand is expected to be the worst yet in terms of revenue for the IRB. The England tournament will is pretty much a safe bet in that it will generate £200m plus and keep the RWC organisation safely afloat.
The 2011 world cup in New Zealand is expected to be the worst yet in terms of revenue for the IRB. The England tournament will is pretty much a safe bet in that it will generate £200m plus and keep the RWC organisation safely afloat.
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fillypunky
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I think that for Italy the hosting of the RWC could rapresent the upgrade to an higher level.
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Will
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I'm torn on this one, as on one hand it's great news for me with the 2015 WC in England, meaning I can make a few trips down and catch as much of the tournament as possible. On the other hand though, it's a disgrace that Japan are having to wait until 2019. Here's a country ripe for development in terms of the sport, and the IRB treat them like the second class citazens that the "old boys network" clearly view them as....
I'm not saying that Japan should have the world cup over England in 2015. What I am saying that it shouldn't have even have been an issue, as Japan should have got the 2011 world cup over New Zealand....
I'm not saying that Japan should have the world cup over England in 2015. What I am saying that it shouldn't have even have been an issue, as Japan should have got the 2011 world cup over New Zealand....
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feicarsinn
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jul 28 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Nah I think Japan would really need ten years to prepare to be honest. They'll need to be competitive to host it and 6 years really isn't enough. The tournament would lose something if the hosts were unlikely to get out of the group stages. It's crucial that the JRU acts quickly and invests big time in development now to be ready.
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Bullitt
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I, nor anyone else, saw that as a problem during the 2002 World cup.
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feicarsinn
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jul 28 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I did. Anyway South Korea were still in it till the semi final which generated a great deal of local interest. That aside football is also a much bigger sport so it's easier to get the general population interested.
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Sir Speedy
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Ah, I was expecting South Africa to be host for the 2019 world cup, but justice has been served for that particular year.
What a big 'up yours' this is to developing rugby nations.
What a big 'up yours' this is to developing rugby nations.
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Bullitt
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Well in that case, the tournament should never be played anywhere except the big 8 in world rugby.
Take a look at the phenominal success of the recent u-20s world cup and look how massive the J-league is becoming.
Take a look at the phenominal success of the recent u-20s world cup and look how massive the J-league is becoming.
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Sir Speedy
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Italy for 2015 would have been ideal. But hey, we can all look forward to showers, tiny stadia and a shitload of BBC hype instead.
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Bullitt
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jul 28 2009, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Rain:
Yes
Stadia:
* Wembley, London (90,000) (Fooball Stadium)
* Twickenham, London (would host the Final) (82,000) (Rugby Stadium)
* Old Trafford, Manchester (76,212) (Football Stadium)
* Millennium Stadium, Cardiff (Wales) (74,500) (Football/Rugby Stadium)
* Emirates Stadium, London (60,355) (Football Stadium)
* St James' Park, Newcastle upon Tyne (52,387) (Football Stadium)
* Anfield, Liverpool (45,370) (Football Stadium)
* Elland Road, Leeds (39,401) (Football Stadium)
* St Mary's, Southampton (32,689) (Football Stadium)
* Ricoh Arena, Coventry (32,609) (Football Stadium)
* Welford Road, Leicester (23,000) (Rugby Stadium)
* Kingsholm, Gloucester (16,500) (Rugby Stadium)
Hardly tiny, pitty none of them (except pooh corner and kingsholm) are actually rugby stadia.
BBC Hype:
Don't be soft, ITV will have the coverage. BBC will do everything in their power to make the public completely ignore the existence of the RWC - as they always have. Probably by calling for the FA to arrange a oikball fixture at Wembley at the same time as Englands opening fixture, thus lowering the ratings in all the pubs etc. (e.g. The bullshit fixture against Israel in 2007)
Rain:
Yes
Stadia:
* Wembley, London (90,000) (Fooball Stadium)
* Twickenham, London (would host the Final) (82,000) (Rugby Stadium)
* Old Trafford, Manchester (76,212) (Football Stadium)
* Millennium Stadium, Cardiff (Wales) (74,500) (Football/Rugby Stadium)
* Emirates Stadium, London (60,355) (Football Stadium)
* St James' Park, Newcastle upon Tyne (52,387) (Football Stadium)
* Anfield, Liverpool (45,370) (Football Stadium)
* Elland Road, Leeds (39,401) (Football Stadium)
* St Mary's, Southampton (32,689) (Football Stadium)
* Ricoh Arena, Coventry (32,609) (Football Stadium)
* Welford Road, Leicester (23,000) (Rugby Stadium)
* Kingsholm, Gloucester (16,500) (Rugby Stadium)
Hardly tiny, pitty none of them (except pooh corner and kingsholm) are actually rugby stadia.
BBC Hype:
Don't be soft, ITV will have the coverage. BBC will do everything in their power to make the public completely ignore the existence of the RWC - as they always have. Probably by calling for the FA to arrange a oikball fixture at Wembley at the same time as Englands opening fixture, thus lowering the ratings in all the pubs etc. (e.g. The bullshit fixture against Israel in 2007)
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Sir Speedy
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Ah yes, ITV.
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feicarsinn
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jul 28 2009, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Eh no, thats not what I said. The IRB was correct in awarding the WC to Japan in 2019 as it gives them time to develop into a competitive team. Any sooner any they wouldn't have had a hope of getting out of their group. Good job completely missing the point of my argument though.Well in that case, the tournament should never be played anywhere except the big 8 in world rugby.
Take a look at the phenominal success of the recent u-20s world cup and look how massive the J-league is becoming.[/b]
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elgringoborracho
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Really sucks for Italy, plus I'm not even sure they would have been bad in terms of profitability. Not saying they can compete on that with fat money England. Clearly they were chosen for financial reasons.
Can't complain too much though, London is closer to Paris than Rome, and this time I'm not missing the f***ing final I tell ya.
France will be crap under the rain, but it doesn't matter since we will have won the 2011 WC. B)
Japan have to wait 10 more years, but hey if IRB needed the money you can't really blame them.
Can't complain too much though, London is closer to Paris than Rome, and this time I'm not missing the f***ing final I tell ya.
France will be crap under the rain, but it doesn't matter since we will have won the 2011 WC. B)
Japan have to wait 10 more years, but hey if IRB needed the money you can't really blame them.
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Steve-o
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Well done on getting your 4th RWC Wales. Fuggin A!
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snoopy snoopy dog dog
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (feicarsinn @ Jul 28 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. Japan has 10 years to get their domestic competition up to a higher standard and plenty of time to work with the iRB towards increasing their exposure to tier 1 rugby ahead of hosting the World Cup. In my opinion awarding Japan 2019 instead of 2015 was the correct call.
I would have loved for Italy to have won the hosting rights to RWC2015 but if the England bid is generating 20% more income for the sport, it's hard to argue against that.
Italy 2023 and North America or Argentina 2027 are the next steps!
Eh no, thats not what I said. The IRB was correct in awarding the WC to Japan in 2019 as it gives them time to develop into a competitive team. Any sooner any they wouldn't have had a hope of getting out of their group. Good job completely missing the point of my argument though.Well in that case, the tournament should never be played anywhere except the big 8 in world rugby.
Take a look at the phenominal success of the recent u-20s world cup and look how massive the J-league is becoming.[/b]
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. Japan has 10 years to get their domestic competition up to a higher standard and plenty of time to work with the iRB towards increasing their exposure to tier 1 rugby ahead of hosting the World Cup. In my opinion awarding Japan 2019 instead of 2015 was the correct call.
I would have loved for Italy to have won the hosting rights to RWC2015 but if the England bid is generating 20% more income for the sport, it's hard to argue against that.
Italy 2023 and North America or Argentina 2027 are the next steps!
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