Government says Yes to Waterfront stadium

Discussion in 'General Rugby Union' started by Ripper, Nov 10, 2006.

  1. Ripper

    Ripper Guest

    http://xtramsn.co.nz/rugby/0,,12416-6547567,00.html

    Trevor Mallard can go and suck SANZARs Tiny *Censored* however, I think this new waterfront stadium is the best option. The Caketin is too small and Christchurch is too cold and polluted to host the World Cup Final. While I love Eden Park, It isn't the best place to host big events, having to walk 2km's to the ground and back in a shitty part of Auckland, where the chances are you'll come back and find your car stereo missing.

    Although 60,000 people is a bit small isn't it?
     
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  3. cwans

    cwans Guest

    Go WATERFRONT stadium!! It'll at least make the docks look better.
     
  4. -JJ-

    -JJ- Guest

    Seems strange to me. Better than upgrading Eden Park but my preference would've been for upgrading Albany, with appropriate upgrades to transport and stuff too. Oh well.
     
  5. sanzar

    sanzar Guest

    60k seems pretty good. Half way between Suncorp and Millenium stadium.
     
  6. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    60k is good for a rectangular stadium

    Hope this happens
     
  7. shiznit

    shiznit Guest

    heres a few pictures for it..
    the 1st 2 were made by WETA who did the graphics for Lord of the rings and did the graphics for RL2.
    the 3rd is from Allianz Arena who they are trying to base the inside on...

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  8. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    Was this the stadium that the NZ RFU was whinging that they might not get because, of course, New Zealand could never host another RWC again *rolls eyes*

    God, I don't know why they were so scared of the Japanese getting the next RWC, the whole voting ballot is rigged so much that you'd think George Bush was being voted in!

    Still, the stadium looks nice ^^
     
  9. fcukernaut

    fcukernaut Guest

    Wahoo! Another generic looking stadium!
     
  10. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    Why is it right next to a dock?

    Surely there must be better bits of real estate there.
     
  11. Canerbry

    Canerbry Guest

    If Auckland's legendary organisation chaos coninues, Pounamu is going to need about 20,000 tempoary seats.
     
  12. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    The more and more I look at that picture, the more and more I think that they must have found the dodgiest part of the docks and thought "hmmm, this could do with a Rugby stadium!"

    Its a total dump! Look at it! The iRB were seriously swayed by this?!

    <NZ> Er yeah, right we want to spend loads of money on building a rugby stadium in the middle of an industrial estate that will stick out like a sore thumb. Namibia fans can get easy access via being smuggled in via the container port next door.

    <iRB> and what if this fails? I mean it hasn't gotten planning permission yet.

    <NZ> er..well..we can..er..tack on some seats somewhere I guess.

    <iRB> SOLD!

    <Japan> But..but! What about our high tech infrastructure, our bullet trains! Our top quality all seater stadia?!

    <iRB> sorry ol' Japanese pal but we got a..er..better offer

    *meanwhile on the iRB's front lawn in DUbai the ground staff take delivery of the brand new grass cutting equipment from New Zealand*

    <Abdul> *looks at the 50 New Zealand sheep* after they cut the grass...can we make halal meat out of them?

    I've said it once, I'll say it again, FARCE!
     
  13. Canerbry

    Canerbry Guest

    Prestwick, that's not exactly the ass end of Auckland - it's north facing (very sunny), a minutes walk from major bars and restaurants, and ten mins walk from the city's major railway passenger depot. Views of the Harbour Bridge and the volcanic cones. Try and find waterfront land anywhere in the world (that the sun shines at - this excludes the *spit* Thames) that isn't prime.

    What do bullet trains have to do with the spirit of the game?

    The problem is that the Government has already commited the "full cost" according to Mallard from the budget surplus (this is equity - not bulit on borrowed money), and must account to the rest of the country apart from Auckland what spending roughly $250 per head of extra spare tax money got spent.

    I have paid my two hundred and fifty bucks, I want a seat at the final.
     
  14. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    When I referred to Bullet trains, I was referring to Japan's ability to hold group games up and down the country and yet be no more than three hours away from each other travel wise. I used the Shinkansen extensively when I was in Japan for three weeks backpacking and it was amazing. Tokyo to Osaka/Kyoto in three hours, Sapporo in no more than five! Thats how you spread the spirit of the game! If we had that kind of rail network in the UK, I'd be travelling the 350 miles north to see Sale and Newcastle and even Edinburgh!

    If it enables the game to be spread across the country and enables the fans to pick and choose where they want to stay (rather than just stay near where their group will be playing) then that enhances the spirit of the game.

    Japan's bid was an awesome bid. It had everything, an emerging Rugby nation ready to unleash rugby mania among 120 million potential fans, top class stadia (which can be turned into Rugby stadiums) already built, fantastic transport infrastructure and a very warm and welcoming nation who cheers for anyone and everyone (even the English).

    The vote was rigged. Japan and the rest of the developing rugby nations were cheated. End of discussion. And if the organisation for this turns out to be a fiasco, there are going to be some very ****** off looks comming from the emerging Rugby nations who we, as the ruling powers of world rugby, overruled just to pad our own pockets.
     
  15. ShowMe

    ShowMe Guest

    Oh for goodness sake wtf is auckland doing? The japs must be sitting in their gigantic flash stadiums having a good ol laugh at us, sending the irb 'look what youve done' emails. Nobody up there in jafaland seems to have any idea of whats the right way forward, the city is divided...bring it to christchurch we can make it work! lol So cmon jafa people lets get it together, we're a proud rugby nation with a 'can do' attitude and no.8 wire - we can make anything work.
     
  16. woosaah

    woosaah Guest

    if they are going to build a stadium like that why do the limit it only to rugby is what i want to know. they could make it bigger and have it for cricket as well. if they do that they could cover it up and have it for other events as well like concerts and stuff (i know the newly built vector stadium is around there somewhere 2 but that only holds 13-15000 aparently.

    if it is going to be called aoteroa stadium, use it for new zealand sports, not just one sport!

    thats my opinion :)
     
  17. cwans

    cwans Guest

    ....b....r...i....n...g.........o...n.........w...a...t...e...r...f...r..o..n..t???

    For crying out loud when is this country going to ever move onto better things when ppl like waterfront nay-sayers keep having their way.

    This is pathetic.
     
  18. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    I think its more people-in-charge-of-building water front nay-sayers :p

    I don't care what the Waterfront stadium is. Does it have a roof like the Sapporo Dome?! Does it have a floating pitch that can be moved outside on a cushion of air like the Sapporo Done?! NO!

    So RWC2011 is already ruined for me in that respect.
     
  19. Ripper

    Ripper Guest

    The World Cup ain't going to your shitty little polluted city, the last thing we need is the world to see a repeat of the S14 final... although it would probably make the Japanese feel right at home too see all the smog in the sky. And if we tried to fit more than 50,000 in your big shack you call a stadium, it would probably collapse.
     
  20. fcukernaut

    fcukernaut Guest

    The World Cup ain't going to your shitty little polluted city, the last thing we need is the world to see a repeat of the S14 final... although it would probably make the Japanese feel right at home too see all the smog in the sky. And if we tried to fit more than 50,000 in your big shack you call a stadium, it would probably collapse.
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    1) The WC won't be played during the winter months so you don't have to worry about all the smog.
    2) Jade is going to be upgraded to a 60k stadia by the 2011(Last time I heard, but with this fiasco I'm not so sure)

    The real reason it shouldn't be held in chch is simply because chch can't handle that many people. There just aren't enough hotels in Auckland, let alone chch or anywhere else across Canterbury.
     
  21. M-Time

    M-Time Guest

    New Zealand are really on track to f*** this world cup up. There's a realistic change their economy will collapse before we even reach 2011. It could be 2003 again but on a larger scale, I wouldn't rule out Japan getting hosting rights just yet.
     
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