Yup, and fired for incompetence if he genuinely doesn't understand the protocols.
Big if, but his objections are utterly irrelevant, won't change anything, and just.. make him look incompetent
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Big if, but his objections are utterly irrelevant, won't change anything, and just.. make him look incompetent
Kiwi ref has let the scrum turn into a farce. Shocker.
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Salads may not win scrums but apparently carbonara and gelato do
And the French in general, and Ramos individually - for the crime of throwing himself at the ground to buy a card (aka being tackled) and the crime of throwing the ball at Lood's head (aka trying to offload out of a tackle), and the ref, for applying the law and the TJ for pointing out what the law actually is, and the TMO for not insisting it be sent to the FPMO, and the people suing RFU/WRU/WR, and the medical researchers looking into head injuries, and the laws, and... probably William Webb Ellis for inventing the game.
I've genuinely seen all bar the last, being blamed
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Refs saying match day doc has mentioned it, but all i see is 4 SA team members around him.
They really are on the line of bringing the game into disreoute on a regular basis
Siya needs to rip Doleman a new ãsshole around the scrum. This is absurd to watch this mess.
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To be fair, SA scrum so illegally its hard not to be a mess. Against France they were very lucky not to be penalised, that entire first front ro step out before drive is awful
And after all that, it’s 10-3.
Always the victim.
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Unreal isnt it... havnt thrown a single pass outside 10, kick and power game for 40 more mins...
Its anti rugby, but so effective.
What did the medic do?
Objected to the requirement for an HIA just because the mouthguard and independant Dr said the player needed one, and then didn't understand the protocols, or why the ref didn't care about his objections
Skinstad's blind if he's not seeing any head contact on that reverse angle. Of course, I've no idea if that angle was available to pundits at the time, or whilst they're talking about it in studio - they seem to be saying the TMO had at least one angle he couldn't get to the big screen.
It's not head on head, but it absolutely is shoulder on head, and always illegal (as per last week)
It's not head on head, but it absolutely is shoulder on head, and always illegal (as per last week)
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Genuine question. Does anyone know the difference between a permanent red vs a 20 minute one?
I genuinely don't understand how the two SA ones have been permanent in contrast to Tadhg Beirne. Obviously Beirne's was never a red card but once it was erroneously deemed so by the bunker, what let it fall below the threshold of full red card?
I genuinely don't understand how the two SA ones have been permanent in contrast to Tadhg Beirne. Obviously Beirne's was never a red card but once it was erroneously deemed so by the bunker, what let it fall below the threshold of full red card?
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A permanent red is permanent, whilst the 20 minute means that the player comes off permanently, but can be replaced after 20 minutes.
Essentially only the FPRO can issue a 20 minute red, and only the ref can issue a permanent red - which is all kinds of wrong.
Basically the ref makes a decisions, definite yellow, definite red, or borderline. If borderline it goes to the FPRO who then decides, but doesn't have access to a full red. But the deliberation happens whilst everyone else gets on with playing/watching some actual rugby, rather than spending 8 minutes watching endless replays at different speeds.
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Essentially it comes down to whether there is any mitigation...
If a players dropping, a tackler falling etc then they down grade to yellow and then the red following becomes 20 mins instead of full.
Full red is for dangerous play without any mitigatiin, so as this its always a no arm tackle so if there was mitigation it wouldnt count.
For me the first contact was shoulder on chest, so should be yellow.
Ultimately the 20 min red is just another layer of bullshit complexity on top of an already overly complex area!
Did I not answer that?
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Oh so it's purely procedural and incredibly prone to human interpretation and error. That tracks for WR completely.
