Nadolo receives racist tweets

[LittleGuy]

So I've been told that apparently i'm calling or "insinuating" the good people of the forum are Racists.

I just want to say that is absolutely NOT the case. If anyone here thinks i'm calling them a racist then you are misunderstanding my point, which has been throughout this discussion that ignoring racist comments as free speech is not an effective means of dealing with casual racism, nor is social policing.

That is a far cry from saying people are racist.

NO you fascile, obtuse, idiot!!!!

In my negative reputation comment to you(which was a *** for tat for your own) I said that you were insinuating the forum membership were comforable with racism.....which your own words.....from an earlier post.


"utter garbage! they are saying "leave it mate it's not worth it", which is not true. Institutionalised racism comes from those very foundations, casual racism is the start - what if that guy in the bar is an off duty copper, or a person in a position of responsibility?


Is it ok to turn a blind eye then because "you know they were drunk and just being a bit racist, not completely racist"."

Not a single member of this forum has told Nadolo to "leave it alone" most members here were supportive of the action he took and simply felt that this case was not severe enough to warrant a police complaint. Either due to the trade off's with civil liberties or the "open ended fallacy" of limited police resources being used on what seems like a fairly minor case. You've repeatedly said clear as day that the membership are somewhat complicit in the spread of racism due to them not wanting your draconian policy of informing police of evey minor idiot.

 

[Draggs]

Ok lads, back off the name calling or we will just can the thread.

 

[goodNumber10]

NO you fascile, obtuse, idiot!!!!

In my negative reputation comment to you(which was a *** for tat for your own) I said that you were insinuating the forum membership were comforable with racism.....which your own words.....from an earlier post.


"utter garbage! they are saying "leave it mate it's not worth it", which is not true. Institutionalised racism comes from those very foundations, casual racism is the start - what if that guy in the bar is an off duty copper, or a person in a position of responsibility?


Is it ok to turn a blind eye then because "you know they were drunk and just being a bit racist, not completely racist"."

Not a single member of this forum has told Nadolo to "leave it alone" most members here were supportive of the action he took and simply felt that this case was not severe enough to warrant a police complaint. Either due to the trade off's with civil liberties or the "open ended fallacy" of limited police resources being used on what seems like a fairly minor case. You've repeatedly said clear as day that the membership are somewhat complicit in the spread of racism due to them not wanting your draconian policy of informing police of evey minor idiot.

I've said nothing of the sort and the "leave it alone" comment is clearly paraphrasing.

I've said ignoring it is not the solution and that people who use these terms will feel justified in using them if there is no fear of consequence.

I've not said anything about calling the police over little things I clearly said if it is on twitter or social media (were there is the potential reach of millions) the police should get involved.

*** for tat? I said I was fed up with you constantly attacking and calling me names. Like a prat, Idiot and arsehole. (All of which you've done unprovoked in this thread)

You told me you were "tired off me insinuating the forum members were racist."

So I'm clarifying that's not what I'm doing for anyone who may think the same as you.

I'd block you to save everyone the trouble of reading this ****e but as your a MOD I can't.

 

[LittleGuy]

I'm done the pedants have won.

 

[goodNumber10]

Ok lads, back off the name calling or we will just can the thread.

Can it mate. It's already gone way over the line...

 

[psychic duck]

Regarding Nadolo, anyone notice what a strange career he's had?

Couldn't get a single game at the Waratahs, was regarded as lazy and a waste of money at Bourgoin and criticised by fans he got released early, Exeter didn't last long, then goes to Japan and scores tries for fun and all of a sudden can perform at Super Rugby level. Would be interesting to read if there are any interviews as to what exactly turned his career around in Japan.

 

[Big Ewis]

wheeeewwwwwwwwwww....talk about sexual tension...

 

[goodNumber10]

Regarding Nadolo, anyone notice what a strange career he's had?

Couldn't get a single game at the Waratahs, was regarded as lazy and a waste of money at Bourgoin and criticised by fans he got released early, Exeter didn't last long, then goes to Japan and scores tries for fun and all of a sudden can perform at Super Rugby level. Would be interesting to read if there are any interviews as to what exactly turned his career around in Japan.

I'm sure I read he struggled with being so far away from family and friends etc... And felt settled when moving on to Japan and stated working hard.

I'm a little unconvinced he's as good as he's looked this season...

 

[MauriSca7]

https://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/24622273/crusader-racially-abused/

It happened to me too to receive insults,threats also from unions members and I'm not a pro player,so nothing new at all for me

 

[nickdnz]

Regarding Nadolo, anyone notice what a strange career he's had?

Couldn't get a single game at the Waratahs, was regarded as lazy and a waste of money at Bourgoin and criticised by fans he got released early, Exeter didn't last long, then goes to Japan and scores tries for fun and all of a sudden can perform at Super Rugby level. Would be interesting to read if there are any interviews as to what exactly turned his career around in Japan.

I agree it's very interesting.

When he was signed by the Crusaders I think few would have expected him to make the impact he did. I first heard of him as a signing of Bourgoin, I think there were one or two highlight videos of him there, most of which he looked pretty slow and not all that devastating. When he went to Japan he clearly started scoring plenty of tries, but again it looked like he was just a big dude against some pretty small players. I have to say I'm surprised how well he transitioned to Super Rugby, where being big certainly shouldn't be as much of an advantage. But yeah, very interested.

 

[TheCrossover]

Nadolo stood out to me last summer vs Japan in the PNC. He was so much bigger than the Japanese back line but ran past them pretty effortlessly. I think the emergence of Nadolo had to do with him getting his mind right.. things just started to click in Japan and he was able to carry that over to the Crusaders.

 

[Darwin]

Regarding Nadolo, anyone notice what a strange career he's had?

Couldn't get a single game at the Waratahs, was regarded as lazy and a waste of money at Bourgoin and criticised by fans he got released early, Exeter didn't last long, then goes to Japan and scores tries for fun and all of a sudden can perform at Super Rugby level. Would be interesting to read if there are any interviews as to what exactly turned his career around in Japan.

Nadolo has far exceeded my expectations this season. I talked him down quite a bit at the start of the season. While I thought his size / power could be a valuable asset out wide I felt this may not be enough to compensate for his poor work-rate, defensive frailties, and positional naivety. I was wrong. He was far more dangerous with ball in hand than I thought he would be, while both his work-rate and defense were better than I predicted too (they still aren't great, but he isn't a liability in these areas). He is still far from perfect - the Waratahs exploited his slowness to drop back and cover kicks on a number of occasions in the final, but he was still a vital member of the Crusaders this season.

He always looked to be carrying a bit of weight in his early days, but looked in fantastic shape for the Crusaders. This, along with a bit more belief in himself (possible acquired by running over lots of people in Japan for a few seasons...), are the main reasons for his transformation in my opinion.

 

[Sam Owen]

He always looked to be carrying a bit of weight in his early days, but looked in fantastic shape for the Crusaders. This, along with a bit more belief in himself (possible acquired by running over lots of people in Japan for a few seasons...), are the main reasons for his transformation in my opinion.

Also playing for the Crusaders helps a lot. Because everyone there is consistently good at their job, means Nadolo can just focus his energy on oppertunities served to him on a silver platter. I do realise that some of those oppertunities arent that easy and could only be scored by someone like Nadolo but as we know the Crusaders do know how to make people look good.

 

[MauriSca7]

Sad,really sad. I received a lot of racial slurs,it's sad that there could be similar things in rugby

 

[Rich Taff]

Personally, I think the minute high profile people open themselves up to 'the hard of thinking' via social media, they're just asking for trouble. Just stay off the bloody things, and the cellar dwellers wont have a chance to abuse them.

I completely condemn the aforementioned cellar dweller comments, and they even manage to make their way onto these forums occasionally, but I really cannot see the appeal of things like twitter, unless you want people to comment (and to leave it open to anyone commenting....well that's just forums without mods)

 

[Darwin]

Also playing for the Crusaders helps a lot. Because everyone there is consistently good at their job, means Nadolo can just focus his energy on oppertunities served to him on a silver platter. I do realise that some of those oppertunities arent that easy and could only be scored by someone like Nadolo but as we know the Crusaders do know how to make people look good.

I agree it certainly helps in some respects. As you say when everyone else is doing their job it makes your job easier, which perhaps explains his improvement in defense, positioning etc. However I don't really feel that playing on the wing for the Crusaders was a great advantage for him in terms of attack. The Crusaders played with a lot of width all season so he did get a lot of ball (which is one good thing), but it wasn't exactly quality ball. More often than not he was heavily marked when he got the ball, with little space to move. Nadolo's ability to create something from nothing was vital for the Crusaders over the later half of the season.

 

[Sam Owen]

Nadolo's ability to create something from nothing was vital for the Crusaders over the later half of the season.

Absolutely. As great as the Crusaders are, they needed Nadolos create something from nothing ability. He who scouted Nadolo and brought him over to the Crusaders, did a fine job as Nadolo was just the man for the job. I wouldnt doubt the Crusaders couldve made the final had Nadolo not been at their camp at all but its equally hard to think they couldve made it without him when you look at some of his crucial tries to get the Saders there.

I wonder if he's still improving, if this is only the first of many devastating seasons to come. I've heard from other TRFers who've been following him and from the sounds of it, he's definitly improved, will that continue?

If he does continue to get stronger and faster, a comparison to Jonah would be fair. At the moment I'd have to say Jonah is stronger, faster and that equals being more powerful of course but if Nadolo gets his training right during the off season, we may see more Jonah like tries from this man in 2015.