Official axed over Mitchell's Yellow

[nickdnz]

It's official. Wallabies winger Drew Mitchell should not have been sent off against the All Blacks.
In a revelation that will incense the Wallabies, IRB referees boss Paddy O'Brien admitted as much on Wednesday after South African touch judge Cobus Wessels was stood down from Saturday's return Bledisloe Cup Test in Christchurch.
Wessels has been axed for his recommendation that Mitchell be sinbinned for a first half "late and dangerous tackle" in last Saturday's 49-28 win by the All Blacks - a mistake with big ramifications.
Scrutiny of match footage not shown on the night revealed that ruling to be well wide of the mark, according to O'Brien.
Mitchell went on to be shown a second yellow card for slowing down play after halftime, resulting in an automatic sending off which cost Australia sorely in defence.
New Zealander O'Brien said the alleged tackle by Mitchell on All Blacks captain Richie McCaw was at the minor end of the scale and Wessels had paid the price for his over-reaction.
"If anything, it's lucky to be a penalty," O'Brien said.
"McCaw offloads as he's about to collide with Drew Mitchell, who puts his hands out and pushes him away. So there's no way it's a yellow card offence.
"As a result of that, with the second yellow, Australia went without a player for 30 minutes and that just shouldn't have happened."
O'Brien said Wessels also called an All Blacks lineout throw not straight late in the Test when it was clearly down the middle.
"Assistant referees, we encourage them to intervene in the game but they've got to get it right. There were two decisions made which we felt weren't up to the standard required.
"Cobus has been very understanding, he admits that he got it wrong and we're not going to hang him out to dry. He's got to go away and think about that, referee the Currie Cup and hopefully learn a lesson from it."
Wessels, who will now be the television match official on Saturday, will be replaced on the touch line by New Zealander Keith Brown.
O'Brien said another neutral official, who had to be from South Africa, wouldn't have arrived until Thursday night so agreement from Tri-Nations governing body Sanzar to appoint a home town official was sought and given.
Meanwhile, O'Brien defended the refereeing trend this season that has seen a proliferation of yellow and red cards, causing consternation from some teams and supporters.
O'Brien said attention should fall on the actions of the players, not the officials.
"We make no apologies for it. We're very tough on dangerous tackles, especially tip tackles," he said.
"This is the shop window of rugby so we can't have third grade players running around in club rugby tipping someone in the air and putting them down with legs above the horizontal.
"And there's no excuses for the headbutting and the other things that have happened."
However, O'Brien suggested officials overstepped on occasion in what was a difficult area to adjudicate.
"There are concerns that there have been a couple of yellows where the referees have been over-zealous. The game is still a contact sport so we just want the referees to be accurate when it comes to what is foul play and what is hard rugby."

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/7698840/official-axed-mitchell-yellow-card

 

[smartcooky]

Refreshing to to see that POB is now allowed to state publicly that a referee/assistant referee has made mistakes and has been stood down.

After the howls of criticism from the ARU when O'Brien dared to impugn their "faultless" **cough** Mr Dickinson after his series of cock-ups in the Italy v New Zealand test last year, it seems that he is now a man ahead of his time, and that the IRB has moved its policy on to O'Brien's way of thinking..

I would fully expect the ARU to once again issue a media tongue-lashing to POB for criticising a match official, even though that official's error was against Australia..... but I won't be holding my breath.

As they say in Mangatainoka......"Yeah, right!!"

 

[Hurricane Nate]

So they are held accountable when they make mistakes, take note SARU. Good to see actually.

 

[allblacksfreak]

Paddy O'Brien, you are awesome

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Good tekkers there Paddy!

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

So they are held accountable when they make mistakes, take note SARU. Good to see actually.

Nah. They are held accountable when Paddy feels like it. Wessels is a Saffa, ofcourse Paddy would jump at an opportunity to screw him.

He has came out and appologised to NZ last year, now Aus. I will cut off my testicles if he ever makes a statement to the effect that the Springboks have had an uphill battle due to inconsistant refereeing. Probably because of the retarded ways our rugby bosses, coach and senior players air their grievences.

 

[smartcooky]

Nah. They are held accountable when Paddy feels like it. Wessels is a Saffa, ofcourse Paddy would jump at an opportunity to screw him.

He has came out and appologised to NZ last year, now Aus. I will cut off my testicles if he ever makes a statement to the effect that the Springboks have had an uphill battle due to inconsistant refereeing. Probably because of the retarded ways our rugby bosses, coach and senior players air their grievences.

Oh please spare me!!!! That is just a load of horse's cock stormer, and you know it.

You're just buying to this "poor me" syndrome. Its the "siege mentality" attitude that has Saffas seeing anti-Springbok conspiracies around every corner.

Your nation was reborn in 1994, but its citizens apparently haven't grown up yet.

Wessels being stood down has nothing to do with his being a Saffa, and everything to do with the fact that he recommended a yellow card for an offence that was not a yellow card offence. If it had been any other referee, the same thing would have happened.

The problem with it was that, while it was in itself not a critical error, it led to serious consequences later.

What the fvck next... Justice4Cobus!!!

 

[nickdnz]

How, I never realized the level of paranoia some South African's, especially while they're losing.

 

[Jer1cho]

Your nation was reborn in 1994, but its citizens apparently haven't grown up yet.

WTF is this ****? Generalize more please.

If it had been any other referee, the same thing would have happened.

You mean like Danie Rossouw getting carded for giving McCaw a love tap and arm hair tickle? I don't recall anything happening after that apart from Paddy O' Brian saying "Some calls were accurate, and others not so accurate"... Peoples opinion are different.

 

[Hurricane Nate]

Paranoia alright, and I thought the poms were renowed for whinging and moaning.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Paranoia alright, and I thought the poms were renowed for whinging and moaning.

What?!
I've never heard people call out refs from rugby matches, who are English.

 

[Teh Mite]

Ah, the one last refuge of the bleating Sanzar nations unity as one big happy family: Blame "the poms" because they're the one who whinge and moan! :lol:


Southern Hemisphere-ers. They make I larf.

 

[nickdnz]

Hey, some of the SANZAR nations could learn a thing or two from the English. The English are the first ones who mention that their teams aren't good enough to win.

I don't think making sweeping generalisations about Australia or South Africa is a good idea at all, and it's not going to solve any problems. I think though, many posters who are upset by the result of the games need to take a step back and think about what they're saying. Many posters, and idiotic public figures, are making big claims like "The All Blacks are cheaters and are getting away with murder", "The referees are on the side of the All Blacks", "Paddy O'Brien is bias against South Africa and Australia, and is controlling the game to allow the AB's to win" etc, and to sum it up, what they're saying is that the All Blacks team is not good enough to have won the games by their own merit, and attacking the characters of New Zealand rugby officials and players.

How are these coments not meant to invoke anger from passionate All Blacks supporters? It's one thing to say "the All Blacks are cheaters" with little or no evidence other than your team is punished for "rule breaking". It gets a bit much saying "well don't attack me, I'm just voicing my opinion". It doesn't work that way, comments which you know are antagonistic are going to be attacked. It's petty, and pathetic. There has been enough *****ing over the results of the games, with stupid comments and topics like "All Blacks vs Wallabies 17 v 14". Just accept that your team lost, or offer something other than wild and offensive speculation as to why you think the result was unfair. It's becoming really childish.

What's worse is that the NH posters are eating it up. They're loving it.

 

[smartcooky]

WTF is this ****? Generalize more please.



You mean like Danie Rossouw getting carded for giving McCaw a love tap and arm hair tickle? I don't recall anything happening after that apart from Paddy O' Brian saying "Some calls were accurate, and others not so accurate"... Peoples opinion are different.

I still think an awful lot of Bokke supporters think that everyone is "out to get them", and that the IRB are involved in a conspiracy to undermine them. It comes out in the preposterous statements of loonies like Peter de Villiers and Oregan Hoskins.

Lets outline a few of these so-called conspiracies shall we

1. The IRFB conspired to prevent South Africa competing in the first two rugby world cups. Of course, the fact that SARFU was a racist organisation that denied black and coloured players (apart from the occasional "token" black) the opportunity to play for their country, had nothing to do with it.

2. South Africa has accumulated over 70 yellow cards and 7 red cards since 2000, between 50% and 150% more than most other countries. This is of course an IRB led conspiracy against South Africa and her players, who aren't really dirty players at all!! Two words.... Bakkies Botha or if you don't like those, here's three more....Johan Le Roux.

3. The insistence of the NZRU and the ARU that the 15th Super Rugby franchise goes to Australia was a conspiracy against SARU. Of course the fact that a 5-5-5 split makes infinitely more sense that a 6-5-4 split is of no relevance.

4. When the NZRU and ARU wanted to run the Super 15 later, this was seen as a conspiratorial attempt by them to undermine the Currie Cup, and thereby weaken South African rugby. The fact that the compromise means that we'll have a half-arsed Conference system in which some teams won't play each other at all each season is just an excuse.

and now, the two that really take the cake;

5. New Zealand beating the Springboks in the first two 3N tests this year was only achieved by bribing the IRB officials to cheat and favour New Zealand because of the world cup being here next year.

6. NZRU and ARU calling for de Villiers to be brought to book for the statements made in 5. above is yet another conspiracy by the NZRU and the ARU to undermine PDV. What the dumb-fvcks don't realise is that PDV keeping his job dramatically increases everyone else's chances of winning the World Cup.

One need only spend a bit of time browsing through the various posts on keo.co.za, and/or reading the Cape Argus to understand this.

Only those with a persecution complex could have conceived the ridiculous "Justice4Bakkies" armband protest. As they say in The Republic... it was "kak"

 

[tinchy17]

How comes this doesn't happen when the Springboks had plenty of their players sin binned?

 

[Jer1cho]

1. The IRFB conspired to prevent South Africa competing in the first two rugby world cups. Of course, the fact that SARFU was a racist organisation that denied black and coloured players (apart from the occasional "token" black) the opportunity to play for their country, had nothing to do with it.

Huh? WTF does this have to do with anything? If anyone is trying to defend a statement like that, why on Earth are you even considering taking it seriously? Utter rubbish, and has fokall to do with anything.

2. South Africa has accumulated over 70 yellow cards and 7 red cards since 2000, between 50% and 150% more than most other countries. This is of course an IRB led conspiracy against South Africa and her players, who aren't really dirty players at all!! Two words.... Bakkies Botha or if you don't like those, here's three more....Johan Le Roux.

Who are the dirtiest players in the world? We are. It's in our nation, and i think it's something that has come from our past. It's sad really. Bismark du Plessis, Bakkies Botha, Butch James, Schalk Burger. All very dirty players in my opinion. South Africans think violence solves everything. We are the most short-tempered nation on the planet, and like i said, i think it has to do with our past.

3. The insistence of the NZRU and the ARU that the 15th Super Rugby franchise goes to Australia was a conspiracy against SARU. Of course the fact that a 5-5-5 split makes infinitely more sense that a 6-5-4 split is of no relevance.

Again, how can anyone take this seriously? 5 teams from each nation is nothing BUT fair. If anybody attributed this to a conspiracy then they are retarded.

4. When the NZRU and ARU wanted to run the Super 15 later, this was seen as a conspiratorial attempt by them to undermine the Currie Cup, and thereby weaken South African rugby. The fact that the compromise means that we'll have a half-arsed Conference system in which some teams won't play each other at all each season is just an excuse.

What? Source please. I have never even heard of a theory like this, and I'm South African.

and now, the two that really take the cake;

5. New Zealand beating the Springboks in the first two 3N tests this year was only achieved by bribing the IRB officials to cheat and favour New Zealand because of the world cup being here next year.

LOL. Nobody said bribing. The general consensus was that the referee was crap towards both teams. The decisions just happened to hamper us far more, because quite frankly, we whinged and moaned instead of actually playing the game. We were well hammered, and it has nothing to do with the ref. Or was it the ref that made us forget how to tackle?

6. NZRU and ARU calling for de Villiers to be brought to book for the statements made in 5. above is yet another conspiracy by the NZRU and the ARU to undermine PDV. What the dumb-fvcks don't realise is that PDV keeping his job dramatically increases everyone else's chances of winning the World Cup.

Let's see what happens when you start appointing everybody in high rugby positions based on their skin color. Both PDV and Hoskins are 'colored' and if you knew anything about their race, you would know that they never EVER fight alone. Colored's always fight in groups and always stick together. Not racist, just the cold hard truth. We have retards in our management. As long as the ANC rule, this will never change, because credentials mean nothing in this country.

One need only spend a bit of time browsing through the various posts on keo.co.za, and/or reading the Cape Argus to understand this.

Only those with a persecution complex could have conceived the ridiculous "Justice4Bakkies" armband protest. As they say in The Republic... it was "kak"

What i find astonishing is how you all take this so seriously. I would swear you guys knew how to ignore WUMS and blatant idiocy. Obviously not.

Some of us are actually intelligent, contrary to popular belief.

 

[Seaton]

I would love the chance to get an inside look at rugby around the world.

Call me soft, but when a group of Westville boys high-five each othe after making a deliberate late tackle, and intentionally trying to injure a player, and succeeding, with only a word of warning from the tef, rugby does seem a little thuggish to me

Does this mentality exist elsewhere (of course it does not mean everyone is included, but even my teamates congragulate each other after getting away with dangerous tackles, and they are from a christian school)

:~

 

[Conal]

the english whinge and moan when its going good or bad its in there anature alng with queing
and being stopped by a red rope
you put a red rope up in england it may aswell be a brick wall

 

[lucky number 7]

Nah. They are held accountable when Paddy feels like it. Wessels is a Saffa, ofcourse Paddy would jump at an opportunity to screw him.

He has came out and appologised to NZ last year, now Aus. I will cut off my testicles if he ever makes a statement to the effect that the Springboks have had an uphill battle due to inconsistant refereeing. Probably because of the retarded ways our rugby bosses, coach and senior players air their grievences.

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Beggining to sound like the tinfoil hat brigade ....

 

[Teh Mite]

the english whinge and moan when its going good or bad its in there anature alng with queing
and being stopped by a red rope
you put a red rope up in england it may aswell be a brick wall

Much like the the Welsh are all into Bestality, the Scotish are all suicidal drunks and the Irish are all terrorist shitheads.

Oh, wait, he was using old and tired stereotypes then pretending they're gospel... I get it...