Over rated Players

[peppers07]

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Would people stop saying Ogara is overated his ability to control the game is good and his passes are excellent at puting the backs outside him into space and holes. R Tipoki L Mafi B Odriscol and G darcy Trimble and who ever else plays centre all benifit from this Defensively he is not amzing but stil make the tackles. [/b]

O'Gara is over rated. Has a varying temperament, usually falls to bits if he gets wound up on the field and goes AWOL if he doesn't get any support. He props himself up by putting in the occassional good performance and survives on the fact that he is essentially the only vaguely decent fly-half in Ireland at the moment.

Thus, over rated.
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O gara is not overrated for the reasons ive said Your right about his temperment and the fact that theres no other fly halves but that doulsnt mean he is not a good player
also i doubt you watch him play for munster so are probably only basing your claim in his play for ireland

 

[Bullitt]

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Would people stop saying Ogara is overated his ability to control the game is good and his passes are excellent at puting the backs outside him into space and holes. R Tipoki L Mafi B Odriscol and G darcy Trimble and who ever else plays centre all benifit from this Defensively he is not amzing but stil make the tackles. [/b]

O'Gara is over rated. Has a varying temperament, usually falls to bits if he gets wound up on the field and goes AWOL if he doesn't get any support. He props himself up by putting in the occassional good performance and survives on the fact that he is essentially the only vaguely decent fly-half in Ireland at the moment.

Thus, over rated.
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O gara is not overrated for the reasons ive said Your right about his temperment and the fact that theres no other fly halves but that doulsnt mean he is not a good player
also i doubt you watch him play for munster so are probably only basing your claim in his play for ireland [/b][/quote]

Seriously. "One of the Worlds best fly halfs", my arse.

When it comes to his play for Munster... Hardly a competitive league he's in now, is it? Put him in the GP, Top 14 or Super 14 and he'd just collapse under the weight of his own ego.

 

[danny]

on saturdayWilkinson will become the highest points scorer in history. Overrated or just your petty bias?

 

[Lankan]

Tasesa Lavea is bloody overrated....he caant direct the game and kick for nuts

 

[Bullitt]

on saturdayWilkinson will become the highest points scorer in history. Overrated or just your petty bias? [/b]

He can't pass or tackle though.

 

[Incredible Schalk]

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Would people stop saying Ogara is overated his ability to control the game is good and his passes are excellent at puting the backs outside him into space and holes. R Tipoki L Mafi B Odriscol and G darcy Trimble and who ever else plays centre all benifit from this Defensively he is not amzing but stil make the tackles. [/b]

O'Gara is over rated. Has a varying temperament, usually falls to bits if he gets wound up on the field and goes AWOL if he doesn't get any support. He props himself up by putting in the occassional good performance and survives on the fact that he is essentially the only vaguely decent fly-half in Ireland at the moment.

Thus, over rated.
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O gara is not overrated for the reasons ive said Your right about his temperment and the fact that theres no other fly halves but that doulsnt mean he is not a good player
also i doubt you watch him play for munster so are probably only basing your claim in his play for ireland [/b][/quote]

Seriously. "One of the Worlds best fly halfs", my arse.

When it comes to his play for Munster... Hardly a competitive league he's in now, is it? Put him in the GP, Top 14 or Super 14 and he'd just collapse under the weight of his own ego.
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What the hell, O'Gara is good enough for almost any side. When he came up against Wasps home and away he was superb and ultimately helped them get past the pool stages at the expense of their GP counterparts

 

[bourbonbeast]

Tasesa Lavea is bloody overrated....he caant direct the game and kick for nuts
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hell yeah lavea was useless any team is better off with out him i reckon

 

[peppers07]

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Would people stop saying Ogara is overated his ability to control the game is good and his passes are excellent at puting the backs outside him into space and holes. R Tipoki L Mafi B Odriscol and G darcy Trimble and who ever else plays centre all benifit from this Defensively he is not amzing but stil make the tackles. [/b]

O'Gara is over rated. Has a varying temperament, usually falls to bits if he gets wound up on the field and goes AWOL if he doesn't get any support. He props himself up by putting in the occassional good performance and survives on the fact that he is essentially the only vaguely decent fly-half in Ireland at the moment.

Thus, over rated.
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O gara is not overrated for the reasons ive said Your right about his temperment and the fact that theres no other fly halves but that doulsnt mean he is not a good player
also i doubt you watch him play for munster so are probably only basing your claim in his play for ireland [/b][/quote]

Seriously. "One of the Worlds best fly halfs", my arse.

When it comes to his play for Munster... Hardly a competitive league he's in now, is it? Put him in the GP, Top 14 or Super 14 and he'd just collapse under the weight of his own ego.
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The Magners is a compeditive competition and absouloutly no one can say the heineken cup is not compeditive and Ogara is the captain of one ig of the best sides in that leage (and once again also the reasons i allready said are you even reading my posts)

 

[danny]

<div class='quotemain'>on saturdayWilkinson will become the highest points scorer in history. Overrated or just your petty bias? [/b]

He can't pass or tackle though.
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Thats a bit harsh! His distribution could be better but his tackling must surely make him the best defensive 10 of all time. One bad tackle against Wales doesnt make him a bad tackler. Look at his career as a whole and some of his tackling has defied belief. In particular the grand slam game in Ireland in 2002 when at times it looked like he was keeping them out on his own with some brutal hits. You seem to have a very short memory!

 

[thatfatkid84]

Adam Ashley-Cooper would have to be the most overrated player to somehow get selected for the wallabies. John Connolly must've been on the wacky tobaccy to select him over Drew Mitchell in the world cup.

 

[xusky]

Ali Williams. The least physical lock in world rugby and a big reason NZ didnt do better in the WC>
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********, Ali is a great player and is very physical.

Tasesa Lavea is very overated.

 

[sambãd5]

Tasesa Lavea is very overated. [/b]

your going to go far here my friend.

 

[Steve-o]

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<div class='quotemain'>on saturdayWilkinson will become the highest points scorer in history. Overrated or just your petty bias? [/b]

He can't pass or tackle though.
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Thats a bit harsh! His distribution could be better but his tackling must surely make him the best defensive 10 of all time. One bad tackle against Wales doesnt make him a bad tackler. Look at his career as a whole and some of his tackling has defied belief. In particular the grand slam game in Ireland in 2002 when at times it looked like he was keeping them out on his own with some brutal hits. You seem to have a very short memory!
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Best of all time?

I take it you never watched Henri Honiball play.

Targeting of the flyhalf's channel was non existant when he was around.

 

[danny]

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<div class='quotemain'>on saturdayWilkinson will become the highest points scorer in history. Overrated or just your petty bias? [/b]

He can't pass or tackle though.
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Thats a bit harsh! His distribution could be better but his tackling must surely make him the best defensive 10 of all time. One bad tackle against Wales doesnt make him a bad tackler. Look at his career as a whole and some of his tackling has defied belief. In particular the grand slam game in Ireland in 2002 when at times it looked like he was keeping them out on his own with some brutal hits. You seem to have a very short memory!
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Best of all time?

I take it you never watched Henri Honiball play.

Targeting of the flyhalf's channel was non existant when he was around.
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To be fair I do remember Honiball and yes he was excellent in defence and its a matter of opinion(and I respect yours) but I think Wilko is the best defensive 10. Its not really a good time to be lavishing praise on Wilko but we shouldnt forget his contribution to English rugby when he was in his prime. Im afraid injuries have taken their toll on him.

 

[Juggernaut]

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Tasesa Lavea is very overated. [/b]

your going to go far here my friend.

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along with this bloke:

Tasesa Lavea is bloody overrated....he caant direct the game and kick for nuts [/b]

 

[melon]

Just a reminder everyone:

There is a difference to being a bad player and being an overrated player.

Some people are saying bad players are overrated when the fact is that the bad players have never actually been rated in the first place!

 

[sambãd5]

if that is in refrence to lavea - yes he was. he was hailed as the next big thing from league. then got all the credit from when he replaced carlos. and for some reason the media still cares if hes in the line up.

yes he was never dan carter, lomu or umaga when it comes to being rated, but for what he was talked up about - he was so much worse.

 

[Caledfwlch]

The fact that people think Lavea has something offer to a S14 side alr is overratimg him

 

[melon]

Nah I was just talking in general

I don't really have a take on Lavea...I actually can't even remember seeing him play.

 

[sanzar]

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<div class='quotemain'>on saturdayWilkinson will become the highest points scorer in history. Overrated or just your petty bias? [/b]

He can't pass or tackle though.
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Thats a bit harsh! His distribution could be better but his tackling must surely make him the best defensive 10 of all time. One bad tackle against Wales doesnt make him a bad tackler. Look at his career as a whole and some of his tackling has defied belief. In particular the grand slam game in Ireland in 2002 when at times it looked like he was keeping them out on his own with some brutal hits. You seem to have a very short memory! [/b][/quote]

That's just the thing isn't it though. 2002 was a long time ago now and so was 2003, and while he may have been great for a good 3 years there in the scheme of a career that's not exactly fantastic. All people see now is a one time hero who seems to be getting picked on reputation rather than merit and that makes him over-rated.

As for his defence, well he was a great defender for a while, but again, now he just seems ordinary...