Patrick Tuipulotu's positive drugs test

[Bada-Bing!]

http://youtu.be/aHvVeDiPZwo

So one AB failed a drugs test. Said to be for a "specified" substance, so could be explained and a lower level ban.

 

[Which Tyler]

Surely all banned substances are specified?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Surely all banned substances are specified?

Not necessarily. I think if it were PEDs i.e. steroids, then these cannot be explained as being inadvertently taken. In PT's case the substance shown in his failed test could be explained by him inadvertently taking a dietary supplement, prescribed medicine etc. So, now it is up to him to prove that this is the case. The ceiling for specified substance is lower than unspecified - 2 compared to 4 year ban. That is my understanding of it.

We will have to wait and see - looks like he'll be banned nevertheless, and could miss the Lions tests.

 

[SomeOke]

I know this isn't really the thread for this but how prevalent is drug use in rugby?
How often do people get tested, and how long do steroids stay in your system?

 

[TRF_heineken]

I know this isn't really the thread for this but how prevalent is drug use in rugby?
How often do people get tested, and how long do steroids stay in your system?

We have had discussions about this before on the forum:

http://www.therugbyforum.com/threads/34618-Doping-in-Rugby?highlight=steroids
http://www.therugbyforum.com/threads/32754-Steroids-we-done-this-yet?highlight=steroids

 

[SomeOke]

We have had discussions about this before on the forum:

http://www.therugbyforum.com/threads/34618-Doping-in-Rugby?highlight=steroids
http://www.therugbyforum.com/threads/32754-Steroids-we-done-this-yet?highlight=steroids

Thanks Hein, sorry for not doing a more thorough search.

 

[TRF_heineken]

Patrick's B-sample has cleared him of doping, and his suspension has been lifted.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/b-sample-clears-all-black-of-doping-20170209

 

[smartcooky]

Patrick's B-sample has cleared him of doping, and his suspension has been lifted.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/b-sample-clears-all-black-of-doping-20170209

There are a number of causes for getting false positives in UDT testing such as metabolic conversion and exposure to legitimate sources of a drug, but by far the most common one is laboratory error. I'll bet that when the investigation is over, they will find that someone fooked up the test on the A-Sample, perhaps contaminating it while testing.

 

[The Jones Boy]

Here's hoping he's cleared and gets back on the Umaga band wagon

 

[smartcooky]

Here's hoping he's cleared and gets back on the Umaga band wagon

He is cleared, completely exonerated!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...tu-cleared-of-drugs-charge-and-can-join-Blues

As I said, the most likely culprit was an error in the testing lab.

 

[Gavin]

He is cleared, completely exonerated!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...tu-cleared-of-drugs-charge-and-can-join-Blues

As I said, the most likely culprit was an error in the testing lab.

Kiwi conspiracy

 

[smartcooky]

Kiwi conspiracy

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...b-found-to-be-at-fault-for-positive-drug-test

"All Blacks and Blues lock Patrick Tuipulotu could seek compensation if results of his initial drugs test were botched by a Salt Lake City-based laboratory."

"Wada has confirmed it will launch its own inquiry into the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory in Salt Lake City.

Perhaps it was a Mormon conspiracy!?

 

[The Jones Boy]

Southpark will have a to to say about it.

Now lets get him into the team and let Tana work his magic.
Woohoo.

 

[Five Meters Out]

The Tuipuloto positive "A sample" gave Mark Reason (that British journalist who now lives in NZ and tries to pass himself off as 1/2 Kiwi) the chance to spit his nastiness. In his article last week about Tuipuloto he managed to compare him to a drug cheating Belarus shot putter, and made sure to mention that many in world rugby think the All Blacks bulk themselves up by using banned substances. His implication was that this is systematic.
That's what happens in such cases - the mud is thrown. Tuipuloto should pursue compensation from WADA through the Courts.

 

[smartcooky]

The Tuipuloto positive "A sample" gave Mark Reason (that British journalist who now lives in NZ and tries to pass himself off as 1/2 Kiwi) the chance to spit his nastiness. In his article last week about Tuipuloto he managed to compare him to a drug cheating Belarus shot putter, and made sure to mention that many in world rugby think the All Blacks bulk themselves up by using banned substances. His implication was that this is systematic.
That's what happens in such cases - the mud is thrown. Tuipuloto should pursue compensation from WADA through the Courts.

Reason has large amounts of egg on his face now, but that won't harm his credibility since he has none to begin with

Tuipolotu should sue the arrogant little prick for libel.