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I don't think different boots would of been high on the agenda in the new feature list. Plenty of other things which are more important to implement, around the game play aspects


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Whoa whoa! That's crazy talk.

Sort out your priorities.
 
ive seen a picture of london welsh in this game does this mean newcastle falcons aint gonna be in the game ?

Apparently its meant to be set at the start of this season not next season, so I think London Welsh will be the default team in the premiership. Newcastle might be in it too though. they put Leeds in last time round I think?
 
Milla/Mario:

Can you shed any information on whether the issue of props being lowely rated has been dealt with? Bit silly that the best prop in the world will be rated lower than a very average five eighth...
 

Hi Milla and all of you At Sidhe!
I would like to tell you in advance that english is not my first language so excuse me for grammar / spelling errors!
I come from Belgium ( little country next to france :lol: )

Rugby challenge was awesome!! i was so glad to play it and i thank you for bringing rugby gaming at a really high level :)

I have just one question/ suggestion for RC II.
I play RC on PC and i was a bit sad that there was no alterative other than playing the game with the keyboard.
Will it be possible in RC II ( on PC ) to plug-in a controller or gamepad and play with it? or even choose your own assignments on the keyboard?

Thank you i hope i was clear enough :D
Henri
 
http://nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/1109/all-blacks-rugby-challenge-2.html

Some interesting things there not any big changes apparently but thats ok as long as the other stuff is properly tidied up.

One thing that worries/annoys me is that I saw a video which I'm not sure is valid or not where someone was showing the ratings. If the video is correct it looks like the Northern Hemisphere teams are underrated again. It looked like (though I wasn't certain) that Clermont were 58. Leinster were rated worse than Munster Leinster 70.7 and Munster 72 with both worse than...Bay of Plenty at 73.
 
http://nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/1109/all-blacks-rugby-challenge-2.html

Some interesting things there not any big changes apparently but thats ok as long as the other stuff is properly tidied up.

One thing that worries/annoys me is that I saw a video which I'm not sure is valid or not where someone was showing the ratings. If the video is correct it looks like the Northern Hemisphere teams are underrated again. It looked like (though I wasn't certain) that Clermont were 58. Leinster were rated worse than Munster Leinster 70.7 and Munster 72 with both worse than...Bay of Plenty at 73.

Considering this game is supposed to give a more NH friendly view I would be really disappointed by that.
 
http://nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/1109/all-blacks-rugby-challenge-2.html

Some interesting things there not any big changes apparently but thats ok as long as the other stuff is properly tidied up.

One thing that worries/annoys me is that I saw a video which I'm not sure is valid or not where someone was showing the ratings. If the video is correct it looks like the Northern Hemisphere teams are underrated again. It looked like (though I wasn't certain) that Clermont were 58. Leinster were rated worse than Munster Leinster 70.7 and Munster 72 with both worse than...Bay of Plenty at 73.

Well that preview/review is sure to make South African not buy the game. Consider my pre-order cancelled!!
 
It was NZGamer who wrote the thing not Sidhe. Why cancel a per-order. I saw a couple of gameplay videos from some guy who was at the pre-release. It's a shame about the South African teams, but I'm sure they tried their hardest.
 
Yeah a bit dismissive of you guys.

A bit?

That type of arrogance/biasness is not what any game designer wants. The purpose of making these games are to make a profit. An SA being one of the Rugby powerhouses in the world, shows how shortsighted Sidhe are in making their games.

In fact it's pretty much dismissive to any other rugby playing nation that is not from Australasia! If I were a NH rugbyfan, I'd be equally disappointed.

I've already forwarded that review to Megarom. The SA gaming distribution company. Let's see how the sales will be affected by this in SA.
 
http://nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/1109/all-blacks-rugby-challenge-2.html

Some interesting things there not any big changes apparently but thats ok as long as the other stuff is properly tidied up.

One thing that worries/annoys me is that I saw a video which I'm not sure is valid or not where someone was showing the ratings. If the video is correct it looks like the Northern Hemisphere teams are underrated again. It looked like (though I wasn't certain) that Clermont were 58. Leinster were rated worse than Munster Leinster 70.7 and Munster 72 with both worse than...Bay of Plenty at 73.

To be fair I'm pretty sure I saw the same video, and Clermont were a 68.something. Bay of Plenty were in the low 60s...



I agree that the ITM cup as a whole is pretty overrated (no ITM cup team should really be that close to a top Heineken cups side, with the possible exception of a full-strength Canterbury/Auckland or Wellington) but the clubs don't seem to be done too badly. The top French sides might need a bit of a boost, and some of the English sides might need to be dropped down a little, but it looks fairly balanced on the whole (especially as the top Super 15 sides never went over 80 in the last one).
 
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A bit?

That type of arrogance/biasness is not what any game designer wants. The purpose of making these games are to make a profit. An SA being one of the Rugby powerhouses in the world, shows how shortsighted Sidhe are in making their games.

In fact it's pretty much dismissive to any other rugby playing nation that is not from Australasia! If I were a NH rugbyfan, I'd be equally disappointed.

I've already forwarded that review to Megarom. The SA gaming distribution company. Let's see how the sales will be affected by this in SA.

They did not have the rights to SA teams, as they were still held by whoever made RWC2011. Nothing could be done there, as I would imagine it was a contract or something.
 
To be fair I'm pretty sure I saw the same video, and Clermont were a 68.something. Bay of Plenty were in the low 60s...



I agree that the ITM cup as a whole is pretty overrated (no ITM cup team should really be that close to a top Heineken cups side, with the possible exception of a full-strength Canterbury/Auckland or Wellington) but the clubs don't seem to be done too badly. The top French sides might need a bit of a boost, and some of the English sides might need to be dropped down a little, but it looks fairly balanced on the whole (especially as the top Super 15 sides never went over 80 in the last one).


Oh yeah see it now fairly hard to see on the screen I was looking at. Still a clear lack of knowledge about the NH when Biarritz are better than Clermont. It's not that hard to actually find out how good the teams are.
 
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Oh yeah see it now fairly hard to see on the screen I was looking at. Still a clear lack of knowledge about the NH when Biarritz are better than Clermont. It's not that hard to actually find out how good the teams are.

I agree, but it's not awful by any means. Given how well they accommodate for customisation it really won't take too long to tweak the teams to your liking.

Fingers crossed their next edition has a Northern Hemisphere team as well as one in Aus and NZ (but for a 3rd one their sales for RC2 will have to be pretty good...)
 
I agree, but it's not awful by any means. Given how well they accommodate for customisation it really won't take too long to tweak the teams to your liking.

Fingers crossed their next edition has a Northern Hemisphere team as well as one in Aus and NZ (but for a 3rd one their sales for RC2 will have to be pretty good...)

Even though the ratings are very iffy, they've hugely expanded the French side of it, apparently because the first game did really well in France. So sales might do alright, though they haven't got the Top14 stadiums which is a bit odd.
 
If rating really are that much of an issue, you could edit them in RC1, so I'd hazard a guess and say you can do the same in RC2. Inconvenient, but at least they can be changed unlike R08.
 
Well Its nice to see more of a balance with Northern Hemisphere stadia and from what I've seen likenesses - Liberty, city stadium and Parc y Scarlets look good from stadium select screen (didn't manage to see Rodney Parade in the vid).

After seeing the Lions starting XV in the vids, I hope that will be at least changed to accommodate those that are actually touring/not touring (I think it has been noted on SIDHE forums that game will ship with correct 37 players at least).

Everyone's moaning its same game with minor improvements, isn't that what we get in most sports franchises every year??? FIFA is just minor little things every year, but the little things make a difference if one was to play previous outing. I think the rucks, line-outs and strategies will be a welcome addition if implemented nicely. One of those things that might make going back to RC1 difficult for some poss???

We will never know till we have a controller in hand, and disc in console.
 
If rating really are that much of an issue, you could edit them in RC1, so I'd hazard a guess and say you can do the same in RC2. Inconvenient, but at least they can be changed unlike R08.

Yeah but I then go way too far with the other extreme and end up overrating some teams/players think Gilroy was like 90...

Well Its nice to see more of a balance with Northern Hemisphere stadia and from what I've seen likenesses - Liberty, city stadium and Parc y Scarlets look good from stadium select screen (didn't manage to see Rodney Parade in the vid).

After seeing the Lions starting XV in the vids, I hope that will be at least changed to accommodate those that are actually touring/not touring (I think it has been noted on SIDHE forums that game will ship with correct 37 players at least).

Everyone's moaning its same game with minor improvements, isn't that what we get in most sports franchises every year??? FIFA is just minor little things every year, but the little things make a difference if one was to play previous outing. I think the rucks, line-outs and strategies will be a welcome addition if implemented nicely. One of those things that might make going back to RC1 difficult for some poss???

We will never know till we have a controller in hand, and disc in console.

I think thats because FIFA have their game near perfect while RC have a lot more in comparison to get right. In fairness though I think most people aren't moaning and are happy for them to try get these things right.
 
I was going to add the huge differences, budgets etc between FIFA and RC but my mind couldn't concentrate :P :P

I'm very happy to be playing a new rugby game in next few months. I know it won't be perfect, its only second attempt at Rugby union, but they are doing a good job at laying the foundations.

I got annoyed with SH bias with RC1 in terms of player likenesses, and it seems as if its been dealt with it from what I've seen, so I'm happy :D Ratings can be played with so all is good :D :D :D

I'd like to see someone who knows what they are doing showcase the strategies on both attack and defense to see what they actually do. Video's aren't completely clear as everyone is new to this area (which is fair enough).

I wonder what the Orange one will look like with London Welsh??? I hope LW's purple kit is there, I do like that :D

Happy Welshman here :D
 
If I have a concern from watching this gameplay its would be that Sidhe don't sem to have tackled the issue of the overly chaotic gameplay - it still looks like its possible to fling ridiculously long passes across the pitch without even facing the right direction. It was my hope that Sidhe would calm it down and structure gameplay more - so I'm slightly worried, if being honest.
 
Yeah the problem I have with RC2 is that it isn't going to bring in any new SH gamers.

In my opinion Sidhe haven't fixed the biggest problem with RC, i.e. how manic the game play is. Adding minor features is all fine and dandy, but I'd still rather play a modded Rugby 2005 than RC2, based on what we've seen, because the core gameplay is simply too wild.

Northern hemisphere gamers at least have greater coverage etc. of their teams, so that is a selling point for them. The Lions tour isn't a new feature, as far as I can tell. Otherwise, if a gamer didn't buy RC1, I can't see any reason why they would want to buy RC2. I didn't buy RC until a week ago, when it was $15 for the PC, because Rugby 08 is still a considerably better game, gameplay wise. RC definitely has the better extra features and tournaments available, but the gameplay just doesn't compare.

Just my opinion, of course. I appreciate there are people out there who like RC's gameplay, but I am not one of them. Likewise, I appreciate how much effort the Sidhe team is putting into this game, and how difficult it must be to create a rugby game, but that doesn't excuse it in my view. RC is too much like the Rugby League games and not enough like the EA games.

Going to post this on the RC forums too...
 
Yeah the problem I have with RC2 is that it isn't going to bring in any new SH gamers.

In my opinion Sidhe haven't fixed the biggest problem with RC, i.e. how manic the game play is. Adding minor features is all fine and dandy, but I'd still rather play a modded Rugby 2005 than RC2, based on what we've seen, because the core gameplay is simply too wild.

Northern hemisphere gamers at least have greater coverage etc. of their teams, so that is a selling point for them. The Lions tour isn't a new feature, as far as I can tell. Otherwise, if a gamer didn't buy RC1, I can't see any reason why they would want to buy RC2. I didn't buy RC until a week ago, when it was $15 for the PC, because Rugby 08 is still a considerably better game, gameplay wise. RC definitely has the better extra features and tournaments available, but the gameplay just doesn't compare.

Just my opinion, of course. I appreciate there are people out there who like RC's gameplay, but I am not one of them. Likewise, I appreciate how much effort the Sidhe team is putting into this game, and how difficult it must be to create a rugby game, but that doesn't excuse it in my view. RC is too much like the Rugby League games and not enough like the EA games.

Going to post this on the RC forums too...

The fact of the matter is it's definitely looking less chaotic with people playing that have never played before. Play the game right and I'm sure RC2 will be a lot better. We haven't seen the AI yet.....

The career mode is a HUGE step up from RC1. We finally have a proper career mode. Salary caps (can be turned on or off at the start) ability to be fired (can be turned off at the start) a transfer window (a smart one too - so you can't just buy whoever you want as good players won't play for poor teams) contracts and so on. Other teams hire players too. There also sounds like there's a drafting type thing which may be rookies.
 
nevermind. looks pretty much the same as the first rugby challenge bar set plays , one off runners off the ruck and you can pilfer the ball. the passing in the game looks like id be pulling my hair out and attacking my tv set.
 
something tells me this game is such over rated then ur gonna get it and its really gonna suck just like the first black ops they hyped it up so much people thort it was gonna be awesome. i would rather it took 2 years for EA to gain a contract (even thow we know its never gonna happen) than play another disappointing game like RC 1.
 
something tells me this game is such over rated then ur gonna get it and its really gonna suck just like the first black ops they hyped it up so much people thort it was gonna be awesome. i would rather it took 2 years for EA to gain a contract (even thow we know its never gonna happen) than play another disappointing game like RC 1.

How you managed to get than/then right and couldn't spell though is absolutely beyond me.... And honestly, if you were disappointed by RC1 you probably will be disappointed by RC2. But to each their own.
 
tbh from the pictures the scrums are as lowsy as they where on RC 1 the gameplay hasn't changed in a particularly good way player likenesses are only for Australia and the all blacks. possibly the only good thing about this game is the fact there is updated strips and loads more stadiums to choose from.
 

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