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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Little Richardjohn @ Dec 22 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
They're not at their limit at all, especially given the distinctly scanty attendances at most matches. What we're inevitably facing at some point is the loss of a few rows alongside the touchlines. So the capital cost would be minimal. [/b][/quote]
Somebody clearly knows nothing about structural engineering or economics.
To "lose a few rows along the touchlines" would involve ripping down every grandstand and rebuilding them from scratch. Nower days they're all built with poured concrete, not bricks and mortar, the entire structure is designed to be self supporting - therefore impossible to just "cut a bit out" without making them no longer structurally sound and they'd all become condemned by the building officer. That idea doesn't work.
The cost of redeveloping these stadia would run into billions of pounds worldwide, money that isn't in the sport. After all, we're not just talking the Millenium Stadium and Twickenham here, consider Park y Scarlets, Franklins Gardens, Welford Road, Kingsholm, Sixways, Thommund Park... All club stadia recently redeveloped on a limited budget and to do more work work of that magnitude would be financial suicide for those clubs - In some cases, they don't have the land to build more anyway. The rest don't even have their own stadia and share with soccer clubs because they can't afford their own arenas; Would the soccer owners allow their clubs and stadia to be cut up like that, losing revenue from lower attendances (because 'losing a few rows along the touchlines' will decrease capacity) plus making a mess of the stadia? I doubt it.
So the club game would die when the clubs either are all broke or have nowhere to play. No players would come through. Then the international game would die. Then the sport dies completely.
Plus the idea of kick and chase on a 70m wide pitch is like creating a 15 man version of rugby league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Dec 19 2009, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That makes as much sense as... Well, a little.
However, with modern stadia already at their limit for allowed pitch area, that idea simply isn't workable. At least not without £millions of revelopment literally everywhere there's a fixed grandstand.[/b]
They're not at their limit at all, especially given the distinctly scanty attendances at most matches. What we're inevitably facing at some point is the loss of a few rows alongside the touchlines. So the capital cost would be minimal. [/b][/quote]
Somebody clearly knows nothing about structural engineering or economics.
To "lose a few rows along the touchlines" would involve ripping down every grandstand and rebuilding them from scratch. Nower days they're all built with poured concrete, not bricks and mortar, the entire structure is designed to be self supporting - therefore impossible to just "cut a bit out" without making them no longer structurally sound and they'd all become condemned by the building officer. That idea doesn't work.
The cost of redeveloping these stadia would run into billions of pounds worldwide, money that isn't in the sport. After all, we're not just talking the Millenium Stadium and Twickenham here, consider Park y Scarlets, Franklins Gardens, Welford Road, Kingsholm, Sixways, Thommund Park... All club stadia recently redeveloped on a limited budget and to do more work work of that magnitude would be financial suicide for those clubs - In some cases, they don't have the land to build more anyway. The rest don't even have their own stadia and share with soccer clubs because they can't afford their own arenas; Would the soccer owners allow their clubs and stadia to be cut up like that, losing revenue from lower attendances (because 'losing a few rows along the touchlines' will decrease capacity) plus making a mess of the stadia? I doubt it.
So the club game would die when the clubs either are all broke or have nowhere to play. No players would come through. Then the international game would die. Then the sport dies completely.
Plus the idea of kick and chase on a 70m wide pitch is like creating a 15 man version of rugby league.