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Heineken I think he meant that the goal posts are at the back of the end zone instead of the try line.
.....which is a good idea in my opinion. We get a clear, unobstructed view of the try line and take the complicated "goal posts are an extension of the try line if you touch the posts at the lowest point" rule out of play. That it extends the length of the field for place kickers (thus making it more difficult) is an added bonus now that place kickers have improved their accuracy so much compared to 20+ years ago.
 
All those are good points, however we'd then need to change all fields to have the same depth try-zone.
 
All those are good points, however we'd then need to change all fields to have the same depth try-zone.

Not really. Soccer operates with large margins for different pitch dimensions (eg. the pitch at Goodison Park is notoriously narrow) so there's no reason rugby couldn't do the same thing.
 
no it shouldn't.

the difference is in Rugby the grounding of the ball is what gives it purpose. Whereas in American Footbal it's about the area, doesn't matter about the grounding, as long as it is in control of a player.

Secondly, why should a safety be introduced, when the attacking team already gets an advantage of a 5m scrum. In Rugby the opposing team doesn't get points for a mistake their opponent makes. they get the opportunity to try and score from a set piece after the whistle has blown.

Sigesige, please stop with your nonsense. Your arguments are terribly flawed as you don't even know the basic parts of Rugby. I suggest you first go to rugby school, learn the game, and then even think about posting another useless thread which just irritates the living **** out of all the other guys who are actually knowledgeable in the game.

Some people entertain your post, just to get a kick out of some of us ranting. but in the end, it boils down to you have to stop with this crap.

Thank you for your opinion.

Firstly, what do you think about my suggestion that Goals should be moved from goal-line (try-line) to dead-ball line, because goals are obstacles for play?

I think that Rugby (both Union and League) field should be 68m*105m (field of play 93m, ingoals 6m*2).
 
Thank you for your opinion.

Firstly, what do you think about my suggestion that Goals should be moved from goal-line (try-line) to dead-ball line, because goals are obstacles for play?

I think that Rugby (both Union and League) field should be 68m*105m (field of play 93m, ingoals 6m*2).

As always, I think you want to change the parts of Rugby Union to fit your NFL mindset.

Leave the posts, the field and the distances alone. It has nevet been a big problem or reason for discussion. Why change it??

Just stop sige, just stop.
 
As always, I think you want to change the parts of Rugby Union to fit your NFL mindset.

Leave the posts, the field and the distances alone. It has nevet been a big problem or reason for discussion. Why change it??

Just stop sige, just stop.

Well, I admit that my knowledge in Rugby is less profound than players and other commentators, but sometimes outsiders can see problems easily. Yes some of my writings will be seen ridiculous or strange, but my intention is not to destroy atmosphere of discussion.

Do you deny the fact that goals are obstacles for play? (In NFL, goals were on the same place as Rugby before 1974.)
 
He was not saying small players couldn't be goal kickers - quite the opposite. He was was saying a specialist kicker position opens up another way for small players to play top level rugby because apparently it isn't enough that there are props, hookers, fly-halves, centres, wings and full-backs all shorter than most of their countrymen playing international rugby.

While I'm here, I'd like to express my hate for assigning place-kicking to the fly-half. Its the most important role on the field already, let selection somewhere else be compromised by whether they can kick goals.

Do you agree with my idea?

By the way, I have changed my opinion.

The kicker can do:

PK (PG)
FK
Kick-off
Drop-out
Conversion
 
If this rule came in wouldn't Wales be able to bring Neil Jenkins out of retirement? The ex-player just needs to be fit enough to kick. Connacht could bring Eric Elwood back. Jonny could go on playing well into his 50s....

Terrible idea, it be stop start bringing the kicker on and off and then what happens if somehow he gets caught up in play before you can bring the 15th player back on.
 
Why stop with a kicker......could we not have a specialist thrower-in for line outs and perhaps a specialist putter-in at the scrums and a specilaist Kick off catcher that the kicker has to kick to and a seperate specialist referee for each half, the scrum and the breakdowns (and the players have to hold position until he gets there)...................blimey that should help with the salary cap and financial problems!!
 
If this rule came in wouldn't Wales be able to bring Neil Jenkins out of retirement?

I'm still waiting for him to run past 1/2p and take the kick himself. When he stands behind him, you can see him going through it in his mind.
 
If this rule came in wouldn't Wales be able to bring Neil Jenkins out of retirement? The ex-player just needs to be fit enough to kick. Connacht could bring Eric Elwood back. Jonny could go on playing well into his 50s....

Terrible idea, it be stop start bringing the kicker on and off and then what happens if somehow he gets caught up in play before you can bring the 15th player back on.

I'll be devils advocate. If all the player had to focus on was kicking then what would age have anything to do with it? If a 40 year old could kick then GO KICK! EASY MONEY!

Also, it wouldn't take any longer for a specialist kicker to run onto the field and take a kick than someone in the starting XV. You don't need a taxi. It's like what, 20 metres???

If anything, the whole kicking position thing just allows a player to be involved in the game for longer.
 
I think the rules should change every week, be it number of subs, goalposts and/or crossbars, players on the pitch, or whatever. Scoring should be switched up from week to week, as well as offside rules, passing rules, scrum rules, tackling rules, and so on and so forth. Before each set of weekend matches the coaches of all teams playing that week come together and take turns picking pieces of paper noting each rule adjustment out of a hat, just so everyone is on the same page.

However, there should also be one field of play rule picked by the referees that only the referees know, so that no one can anticipate plays or what may or may not be an infringement, just to keep everyone on their toes.

I call it Rugby Roulette.


das
 
When I wrote this idea on a Japanese forum, one said that Mike Harris (Australia) would become the world best kicker if this law was introduced.
Could you tell me about Mike Harris? What kind of player is he?
 
I think the rules should change every week, be it number of subs, goalposts and/or crossbars, players on the pitch, or whatever. Scoring should be switched up from week to week, as well as offside rules, passing rules, scrum rules, tackling rules, and so on and so forth. Before each set of weekend matches the coaches of all teams playing that week come together and take turns picking pieces of paper noting each rule adjustment out of a hat, just so everyone is on the same page.

However, there should also be one field of play rule picked by the referees that only the referees know, so that no one can anticipate plays or what may or may not be an infringement, just to keep everyone on their toes.

I call it Rugby Roulette.


das

What a daft suggestion. Obviously the rules would be decided by a Z-list celebrity spinning a wheel in the middle of the pitch beforehand.
 

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