Speciallist place-kickers

[sigesige00]

Now RU's number of subs is 8. But it would be interesting for RU to increasing the number of subs from 8 to 9 by adding new position--place kicker.
Place kicker plays only in the case of PG and Conversions, like Volleyball's Libero (defense specialist player).

 

[jonny24]

Why? It would take away from the challenge of finding a player capable of on field play as well as kicking. If you want to make the game more about tries than penalties I think this would have the opposite effect.

 

[Patchey]

I think there should be specialist defensive and attacking teams and the game should stop at every turn over...

 

[TRF_heineken]

place kicker, also known as fly half. who is in the starting 15 and also a regular reserve in every team.

 

[sigesige00]

Why? It would take away from the challenge of finding a player capable of on field play as well as kicking. If you want to make the game more about tries than penalties I think this would have the opposite effect.

In RU, small player's position is only 1 -- scrum half. But if there is specialist-kicker position, small players have chance to become top-class players.

This is a video from Japan's High School Baseball. A small player (156cm) won the duel with the pitcher. Although many of you do not know Baseball's rules..

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

What about creating a spot for the morbidly obese? We all know modern props need to be ever more athletic. Perhaps we could allow teams to determine their own scrum formations again so that instead of 8 athletic forwards in the scrum, 3 obscenely huge guys could form an immovable scrum on their own, guys that might weigh around the 350kg mark, freeing up 5 spots for extra backs/loose forward hybrids?

 

[Jaguares]

And you hear this music after each try...

 

[smartcooky]

Now RU's number of subs is 8. But it would be interesting for RU to increasing the number of subs from 8 to 9 by adding new position--place kicker.
Place kicker plays only in the case of PG and Conversions, like Volleyball's Libero (defense specialist player).

 

[big ginger 8]

Idea very good. By the way I also think we should have a specialist thrower. Then guys with massive arms only have chance. Much more interesting yes?

 

[j'nuh]

To be fair on sige, I think that this is by far his most sensible and plausible rule change.

It could be the end of conservative goal-kicking 10s being picked in favour of their attacking counterparts, perhaps opening the game up a little.

The only reason I wouldn't want to see it is because I think it would take away from the tactical side of rugby. I think it's better for teams to have to struggle to fit a goal kicker into their team, rather than every team having an 80+% specialist that makes goal kicking a lottery.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Now RU's number of subs is 8. But it would be interesting for RU to increasing the number of subs from 8 to 9 by adding new position--place kicker.
Place kicker plays only in the case of PG and Conversions, like Volleyball's Libero (defense specialist player).

Yes but why stop there? I think there should only be one placekicker shared by the two teams. An ex-darts professional should be employed as specialist lineout thrower shared between both teams and an old lawn bowls players hired to put the ball into every scrum. Maybe to save money the referee can do all these jobs once he has earned his black belt in darts, bowls and kicking.

 

[dullonien]

In RU, small player's position is only 1 -- scrum half. But if there is specialist-kicker position, small players have chance to become top-class players.

Eh? Size has nothing to do with kicking ability. Halfpenny is often one of the smallest players on the field, yet is one of the best place kickers in the world, and is an equally excellent long range kicker.

Place kicking is all about timing, not strength.

 

[Peat]

Eh? Size has nothing to do with kicking ability. Halfpenny is often one of the smallest players on the field, yet is one of the best place kickers in the world, and is an equally excellent long range kicker.

Place kicking is all about timing, not strength.

He was not saying small players couldn't be goal kickers - quite the opposite. He was was saying a specialist kicker position opens up another way for small players to play top level rugby because apparently it isn't enough that there are props, hookers, fly-halves, centres, wings and full-backs all shorter than most of their countrymen playing international rugby.

While I'm here, I'd like to express my hate for assigning place-kicking to the fly-half. Its the most important role on the field already, let selection somewhere else be compromised by whether they can kick goals.

 

[sigesige00]

When I was an undergraduate student, No 14 was the kicker in my University's RU team.

 

[TRF_heineken]

When I was an undergraduate student, No 14 was the kicker in my University's RU team.

Congratulations

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

What a stupid thread. Go watch American Football if you want a team of 300 specialists who could stay on the pitch for more than 10 minutes!

 

[sigesige00]

What a stupid thread. Go watch American Football if you want a team of 300 specialists who could stay on the pitch for more than 10 minutes!

American Football does not have 300 players in a game. In NFL, the maximum number of players is 46.
I agree that American Football is boring, but American Football has 2 merits:

Goals are on dead-ball line, not goal-line (or try-line, in RL)
There is safety, which should be introduced to Rugby.

 

[TRF_heineken]

American Football does not have 300 players in a game. In NFL, the maximum number of players is 46.
I agree that American Football is boring, but American Football has 2 merits:

Goals are on dead-ball line, not goal-line (or try-line, in RL)
There is safety, which should be introduced to Rugby.

no it shouldn't.

the difference is in Rugby the grounding of the ball is what gives it purpose. Whereas in American Footbal it's about the area, doesn't matter about the grounding, as long as it is in control of a player.

Secondly, why should a safety be introduced, when the attacking team already gets an advantage of a 5m scrum. In Rugby the opposing team doesn't get points for a mistake their opponent makes. they get the opportunity to try and score from a set piece after the whistle has blown.

Sigesige, please stop with your nonsense. Your arguments are terribly flawed as you don't even know the basic parts of Rugby. I suggest you first go to rugby school, learn the game, and then even think about posting another useless thread which just irritates the living **** out of all the other guys who are actually knowledgeable in the game.

Some people entertain your post, just to get a kick out of some of us ranting. but in the end, it boils down to you have to stop with this crap.

 

[McTallshort]

Can the same thing be introduced in vets games? Where the older, uglier and generally less fit players only have to come on the pitch for a set piece? This does happen in theory now but those said players (normally about 8 in number) dont leave the pitch they just walk around aimlessly between each set piece. Think this new rule would save everyones embarrassment.

 

[jonny24]

Heineken I think he meant that the goal posts are at the back of the end zone instead of the try line.